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The Hobbit Hole XIX - Tomorrow we may come this way...
The Freeper Hobbit Hole ^

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:59:05 AM PST by ecurbh

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Tomorrow we may come this way...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Corin Stormhands

Sounds like full blown flu. Lovely.


5,161 posted on 02/23/2005 6:27:19 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: Ramius

Or I could downgrade her machine a little more... I've got one machine, 128 ram and a P2 processor, 'running' WinXP I could give her...


5,162 posted on 02/23/2005 6:28:04 PM PST by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands

Get to bed - or will your cough be relegating you to the chair again? Anyway, try to take it easy...


5,163 posted on 02/23/2005 6:29:02 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

In my group, we've actually started supporting Macs (OSX only)... not universally, but we do support them for people that want them. But before ordering one, they have to get "the speech" that informs them of the limitations of our support.

Goofy mail client. Goofy remote access. No access to our online timesheet or expense report. If that's OK... knock yerself out. Please. :-)


5,164 posted on 02/23/2005 6:30:19 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: RosieCotton; JenB
Sounds like full blown flu.

Oh well then. At least I haven't had the flu yet this season.

I'll be "sleeping" downstairs tonite. I'm afraid to try to lay down.

5,165 posted on 02/23/2005 6:30:48 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: JenB

'Plodding' XP...

Our systems are pretty sad. Heh...I had a guy call from a non-profit org the other day asking what we did with systems once we were done with them. I said that first of all, by the time we're done, they're dinosaurs...and then we generally wipe 'em out and donate them to schools or non-profit orgs. He said they were really hoping we might be able to give them some computers as their were really on their last legs.

After I listed the specs of what we would actually have to give away, he said that actually, their systems weren't so bad after all...

We don't have a wonderful budget. Oh well.


5,166 posted on 02/23/2005 6:31:26 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: Ramius

Which goofy mail client?

I've given up tryin' to like Entourage. Maybe I'm just cynical in my old age, though.


5,167 posted on 02/23/2005 6:32:24 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton

We have this fun thing where some of our computers were purchased by student fees, and those machines can only go in the labs, so we have to keep track of which are which and not accidentally give a grad student one of the special machines. And we just surplused out a lot of old stuff, so our stockpile of machines-to-be-handed-out is really low.


5,168 posted on 02/23/2005 6:35:07 PM PST by JenB
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To: RosieCotton
I wanna be a Unix goddess...

Welcome to the club... your rubber chicken is ready!

5,169 posted on 02/23/2005 6:38:22 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got the will, Lord, if you've got the toe)
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To: RosieCotton

The Balrog (I've introduced him here before) is the "smartest person currently alive on the planet". Just ask him. Bills out at $750/hr (no, I'm not kidding). He's very proud that he's the most expensive consulting engineer in the world.

He insists, vigorously (and I have the obscene emails to prove it) that Windows ME is the finest, most penultimate operating system ever devised by man. He has insisted that we "upgrade" his new laptops from the "old" OEM copy of XP, to ME.

That way, he knows that any problem he encounters is the fault of "your $#%@ing servers" and not his computer or the wacked out stuff he does to it. Since, of course, he's running the most advanced OS in the world.

I kid you not.


5,170 posted on 02/23/2005 6:40:42 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: JenB

Yeah, all our new money goes to purchase lab machines...as those are phased out, they go to offices, and then to less important offices. FINALLY, they get donated.

Departments CAN purchase their own machines, but they don't. They prefer to whine about how IT gives them hand-me-downs.


5,171 posted on 02/23/2005 6:41:33 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Hm...do I wanna know what that means?


5,172 posted on 02/23/2005 6:42:20 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: Ramius
He insists, vigorously (and I have the obscene emails to prove it) that Windows ME is the finest, most penultimate operating system ever devised by man. He has insisted that we "upgrade" his new laptops from the "old" OEM copy of XP, to ME.

Wow.

I'm speechless.

Truly.

5,173 posted on 02/23/2005 6:43:26 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: Ramius
Bills out at $750/hr

He insists... that Windows ME is the finest, most penultimate operating system ever devised by man

Thank you... you've just torn apart the last remaining shreds of faith that I had in American business.

5,174 posted on 02/23/2005 6:45:30 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got the will, Lord, if you've got the toe)
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To: RosieCotton

Heh... isn't that the way...

I love the emails we get all the time from grad students... "I need a faster machine"... "give me a new box".... like we have all these great boxes waiting to be asked for. New machine, or pay your salary? Hmm, decisions, decisions


5,175 posted on 02/23/2005 6:45:45 PM PST by JenB
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To: SuziQ; Soupy; Corin Stormhands; All

Evenin' everyone!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CLARE! :-D

(((Corin)))


5,176 posted on 02/23/2005 6:51:54 PM PST by RMDupree (HHD: My resolution? Spend more time with my friends in the Hobbit Hole!)
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To: RosieCotton
Which goofy mail client?

Sometimes Entourage, though I haven't heard rave reviews. Most of the time they just give up and do Outlook Express as an SMTP client. For anything else the connectors to Exchange just don't seem to work as advertised in the brochures.

Not to needlessly beat the MS drum, but Outlook 2003 in local caching mode, on a WinXP platform, may *in fact* be just about the best thing since sliced bread.

In fact... I'm fixin'ta completely re-architect my whole mail structure around it.

I'm collapsing 25 distributed mail servers in various offices back down to ONE centralized mail server, with everybody running OL2003 local caching. The central mail server will be a two-node clustered pair with SAN storage, with a synchronized failover server in another city.

If I can pull this off... it is gonna *seriously* rock.

5,177 posted on 02/23/2005 6:53:44 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: JenB

Oh, and the other laughable thing we got this year was that the students who most frequently use the writing lab - which is supposed to be STRICTLY for word processing - put together a petition that said they really needed new computers in that lab. Listed all kinds of reasons, mostly along the lines of "if you put new ones in here, you wouldn't constantly have to fix these ones".

First of all, we don't have money for replacing those.

Secondly...I think we MIGHT have worked on those machines twice in the last year, and in generally it was because students were doing heavy browsing and therefore the hard drives were approaching capacity because of temporary internet files. Delete user profiles = no more problems.

But we had a good laugh over it.


5,178 posted on 02/23/2005 6:55:04 PM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton
You have to have a rubber chicken on hand, ready to sacrifice to the Gods of Unix, for those times when you just can't get the d*mn thing to run properly....
5,179 posted on 02/23/2005 6:55:44 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got the will, Lord, if you've got the toe)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

When I have to do Unix related stuff, I sacrifice a whole goat, just to ward off future evil.


5,180 posted on 02/23/2005 6:57:19 PM PST by JenB
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