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ZOT! Does Fossil Record Discredit Literal Biblical Interpretation?
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Posted on 01/16/2005 4:00:48 PM PST by ReasonedThought
The poster on the link says that since the fossil record and carbon-dating says the earth is millions of years old but the biblical record shows an earth roughly 6000 years old. The proof for that is here http://home1.gte.net/bridavis/timeline.htm. Anyway the question is, how can Christians like myself reconcile this? Has science discredited a literal interpretation of the Bible of our Lord?
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To: Wonder Warthog
so do we. science is not evil. it is amoral.
To: Skooz; ReasonedThought
Just because you found some website...
Well! That does it for me! He found it on a WEBSITE!. It MUST be true!
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:09:39 PM PST
by
hiredhand
(Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
To: ReasonedThought
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:10:20 PM PST
by
Castro
(Moses supposes his toeses are roses...)
To: ReasonedThought
What are your feelings about capitalization?
Is the upper case moral, amoral, or immoral?
In your opinion.
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:10:29 PM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: ReasonedThought
God created the fossile record. Who wrote the bible? Men did.
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:10:46 PM PST
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Rudder
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To: ReasonedThought
Carbon dating is only good to say 50,000 years. Try "reasons.org" for many articles with references to other scientific articles.
To: ReasonedThought
First you faith shouldn't depend on what 'men say'. That aside- read a translation of the Bible, not a paraphrase or modern english one- The opening will accurately say- "In the beginning the earth BECAME void. and next, in the command to Adam and Eve the Lord told the to 'go and REplenish the earth'. In my book, you can't REplenish or REfill what has not be previously filled.
There are some very intriguing hints sprinkled in other books particularly Isaiah that there may just have been something before the current line of people descended from Adam & Eve.
There are passages that also refer to the co-mingling of Satan and the "daughters of men", that resulted in monsters- and there are intriguing hints that God stripped the fallen angels of a physical form that would prevent that cohabiting from happening, and when he was then kicked out of heaven there was something of a cataclysmic event.
Don't know, and I wouldn't base my faith on this or make doctrine out it, but it is interesting and perhaps explains lots of things.??
To: ReasonedThought
so do we. science is not evil. it is amoral.
Sort of like guns eh?
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:16:43 PM PST
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hiredhand
(Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
To: neooxyconservative
... and you joined tomorrow. Neat trick!
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:16:54 PM PST
by
Tarpaulin
(Look it up.)
To: ReasonedThought
What does your source, GameFAQs have to do with this?
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:17:10 PM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
To: ReasonedThought
Hows this? In the beginning all was created, and life progressed in it's development according to interpretations of the fossil record. In other words, billions and billions of years can have passed. Then, as the Bible states, the Earth BECAME without form and void (Tohu and bohu). Thus most people think that the original creation of the universe and the later state of the Earth were the same thing. But, the original words state that the Earth BECAME (not was originally created) tohu and bohu. Get it now? The Earth was re-created and the Garden made with man as its tender.
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:18:23 PM PST
by
Socratic
(Ignorant and free? It's not to be! - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
To: Socratic
To: ReasonedThought
"not good!"
Then explain how something is originally created, becomes something, and that something which it becomes is the original creation? Does logic inform your scientific reasoning?
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:25:25 PM PST
by
Socratic
(Ignorant and free? It's not to be! - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
To: hiredhand
"Who are you going to trust? God, or science?"
Next time you are sick, who are you going to trust your doctor or your minister? (Note, I don't see them as mutually exclusive, but I from the stark dichotomy you present, I suppose you might reply " A man can't serve two masters.")
To: Natchez Hawk
good one
ya
To: Natchez Hawk
To: ReasonedThought
No. Bishop James Ussher's assumptions (upon which he based his calucations that are at the heart of this debate) were wrong.
The Bible is not wrong, as it doesn't give a date for creation.
Evolution is not wrong as it merely describes the process by which God used when He set the universe in motion to create us.
The fact the men have gotten it wrong over the years when they tried to impose their own imperfect reasoning on the Divine is not really surprising.
Science is the tool God has given us for understnading His design. When the Bible and Science seem to conflict it is probably a flaw in the interpretation of one or the other.
Science is not "wrong." It may be imperfect on it's way to the truth, but you cannot say that science, itself, is wrong. Science merely describes the physical universe laid out before us. Sometimes well, sometimes poorly, but always attempting to reflect the facts available from God's creation.
The Bible is not wrong. Our intepretation of the teachings may be flawed, but that flaw is in our understanding, not in the Bible.
All except that bit about Lot being a good man. That's just wrong. (asbestos clothing will clearly not be enough).
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:29:59 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
To: ReasonedThought
Anyway the question is, how can Christians like myself reconcile this? Has science discredited a literal interpretation of the Bible of our Lord?How long is a "day" in the eye of God?
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:30:10 PM PST
by
mhking
(Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
To: ReasonedThought; Socratic
Ya know...I'm about maxed out with people who just have to figure Adonai out. What's to figure out?! You either believe, and have a knowlege of assurance by way of Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Wind of God....a.k.a. Holy Spirit), or you believe what others tell you.
Read Ecclesiates 3:11...it says that we all have a knowlege of eternity. So you have this knowlege as well as I do. But if you don't have the assurance that I mentioned in that last paragraph, then stop wasting time and bandwidth here and take it up with the very One who you place below "science".
So what are you searching for here at FR of all places?! You either need somebody to agree with your lukewarmness, or want to start something.
There's enough of an accumulation on this thread to safely say that a majority is NOT agreeing with you, and you'd be better off starting something on another site. The admin-mods have really fast lately with banning trolls and troublemakers.
I know how to figure you out...if you'll simply answer one question. What is your opinion of global warming? Don't hold back now! Tell us what you think about global warming.
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posted on
01/16/2005 4:30:54 PM PST
by
hiredhand
(Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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