Couldn't find any that addressed what I wrote above ... so I decided to write it myself.
Very interesting analysis on this issue.
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Yes, but, you can't buy a brain, and you can't talk well with your hair and breasts . . . |
Excellent read. I think I'll print it out and give it to my kids (14 and 12).
as a breather from all the election stuff that is so absorbing you all, here's a thought provoker
(just returning the favor for the thoughts you have provoked; this is not some ping list) ...(and I think this is esp an gen x issue too...)
A very thoughtful and insightful article.
Excellent!
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Thanks for the thoughtful posting. Enjoyed reading it.
Very well written !
Great read
Well, there's an inherent contradiction here.
I've noticed from the picture threads that freepers are actually a pretty randy bunch, if you'll pardon the UK-ism.
If we had a kid every time we had sex, we'd all go broke! That would mean a kid every nine months or so for maybe 5-10 years. Yikes. Five children is not going to work in today's society, more's the pity.
It worked before, when kids were financial assets, being extra hands on the farm. But in today's urban world, where kids have no economic value until they're long out of the nest, it's just not practical. Birth control, love it or hate it, is a modern necessity in our society.
Unless you value celibacy-in-marriage, which I don't see many freepers, male or female, settling for.
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Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to tell my wife tonight that 1.) she's not interesting, and 2.) she doesn't love me very much.
Pretty good.
As an aside, any "man" that lets his wife use a hyphenated name should turn his member in at the door.
welll done!
Utter nonsense. I didn't need a woman to help me grow up nor have I ever seen any difference between women who take the pil and those that do not.
It is unconscionable to produce children in the hopes that they will serve as some sort of medication to the adults who brought them into the world. Children do not exist to save shaky marriages, to help overgrown adolescents grow up, or any other such purpose that selfish irresponsible parents may have in mind for them.
oh brother. so WE are responsible to translate boys into men? are we also responsible for making men feel like boys too? if the author of this sat next to me as a young woman on a plane and said, "how are you responsible for translating boys into men?" i think i would call the stewardess and ask for a new seat.
how about if alot of things have affected men's ability to translate themselves into men and not just the pill? in many ways, i thank god for the pill.
i am not a libber and i think there are alot of reasons why men have chosen for THEMSELVES not to grow up and take responsibility. instead of bugging the women, ask all those thousands of men you see lined up in video arcades, in bowling alleys, at golf courses, in bars, etc. ask THEM why they have never grown up but instead like the role of peter pan where a woman is made to be responsible for them (like a mommy) instead of them taking on their god given roles.
girls are to blame as well when they fail to become responsible and mature. there are plenty of women also abdicating their role as a wife and parent. so it is not just a male thing.
maybe some of the blame lies in our letting the schools take over many of the jobs we, as parents, should be doing? how many parents do you know that actually walk their older children through checkbooks, financial training, contractual agreements, shopping, etc or do we expect them to learn on their own the hard way. maybe parents find it too time consuming to be parents the way they should be.
the issue of learning maturity and responsibility is a heck of a lot more complex than women's birth control.
I am convinced that the increasing rates of inferility and breast cancer (particularly in women who have no family history of cancer) are directly related to pill use, particularly pill plus smoking. Similarly, I know two young women who died from breast cancer within two years of fertility treatment. I would not be surprised if Elizabeth Edwards' breast cancer is related to her late-life pregnancies, which I suspect (though without documentation) were fertility-drug inspired.
Sure they love to talk, just not with me.....other than that, very insightful work.