Posted on 09/10/2004 9:07:35 AM PDT by antifem
The bills are not being pushed. It's quite true that the two bills mentioned would require both men and women aged 18 through 25 to perform a two-year period of "national service," which incidentally could be either military or non-military service. But the bills are sponsored only by Democrats, and there's not the slightest evidence that the Bush administration is pushing for them, quietly or otherwise.
One bill is HR 163 , whose principle sponsor is Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel of New York. It has 14 co-sponsors, all of them Democrats in a Congress controlled by Republicans. The bill was dead on arrival: it sits in a House subcommittee with no hearings or votes scheduled and no action expected.
In fact, Rangel told FactCheck.org through his spokesman Emile Milne that even he isn't pushing for passage, let alone Bush (emphasis added):
Rep. Rangel: I'm not pushing this bill . It's up to the President to come to me when he needs it.
The identical Senate bill, S. 89 , introduced by Democratic Sen. Ernest Hollings, and also was DOA. Not one other senator has co-sponsored it. It also sits in committee with no action scheduled or expected.
Both bills in question were drawn up before the Iraq war started, mostly to make a political point. Rangel said he acted to highlight Democratic objections to use of military force against Saddam Hussein. He wrote , "I truly believe that decision-makers who support war would more readily feel the pain of conflict and appreciate the sacrifice of those on the front lines if their children were there, too."
Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails
They are not even trying to hide the fact that they are trying to scare-monger the younger folks.
None too swift, are you?
Good Lord, just look at who is sponsoring and co-sponsoring it. It reads like a list the biggest bunch of Bush haters in the House and Senate. Then go to the status. Both of them have been buried in committee for over a year and a half.
2 problems....
The Republicans don't want the draft. They want people who are willing to be there, which the draft certainly won't produce 100%...
Secondly, Rangel came up with this crap. Ignore it.....hes a moron anyway....
This has been a democrat scare tactic for a little while. If you noticed, a lot of the protesters in NYC were carrying anti-draft signs. A year or so ago, Bush was hugely popular in the 18-25 demographic, much to the Dems dismay. Suddenly, "mandatory draft" was being bantered around (mostly by liberal dems). Unfortunately, it seems to have worked a bit.
This was essentially killed in committee.
See my post #21 on this thread, Rangel isn't even trying to hide the fact that he is making a political statement by proposing this mandatory draft. Both bills are admittedly DOA.
This seems quite noobish of the Dems.
*breaks out flamethrower*
It will never pass if the Republicans help us.
It's always about the children, isn't it?
Hey antifem, when you get lunatic emails like this, either go to snopes.com for a refutation, or just google it. 99.9% of the time they're fake.
I have never seen this email before but I'm glad someone started this thread. It just shows, once again, how low the Bush-haters can be. I'll be sure to share this with others. Thank you to everyone who answered the poster's question. It makes this site a great place for information (and info on mis-information too!).
This is correct, also, check the header. In the recieving lines, the | (bar) cannot exist in a domain name, and if an IP address starts or ends with a 0 (like 0.xx.xx.xx or xx.xx.xx.0) then the email was the result of a relay rape.
I never said that I believed it...just a question. The person who sent it to me sent it to about 75 other people and I just wanted some input before I responded to her and the others she sent it to.
Yes there are draft proposals, almost all Democrat.
They have NOTHING to do with military manpower requirements.
They have everything to do with Universal National Service.
And National Service has nothing to do with service.
It has everything to do with indoctrination of the slaves.
NO!!!
Don't fall for this scam!!!
I spent $49.95 on this guy's "Totally Organic Natural Enhancement Formula" and all it did was cause redness and a very slight swelling!!!!
Ok, now I see where I can update my sig, but can I put images in it?
Wow, this forum is slow. This is molasses compared to the Gaia Chatterbox.
Is that YOU, CHARLIE RANGEL.....You're new here. No way in He** do we NEED a DRAFT.....wouldn't want those FORCED to defend the freedoms they enjoy crying in their milk.
Bump. MTV is also running an ad about the draft/SSS. This needs to be put up on Drudge and shot down.
NO DRAFT....is coming!!!!
However, some of these punks out there need the military to straighten their little ass up!
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