The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky

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[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...
• Seventh Thread: The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...
• Eighth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VIII - Still round the corner we may meet...
• Ninth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IX - A sudden tree or standing stone
• Tenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole X - That none have seen but we alone.
      Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
• Twelfth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XII - Tree and flower and leaf and grass
• Thirteenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[Rose in RoseBear]

Human beings venture into space ... and under water ...

[RMDupree]

That may very well be, chica.

Besides calling the movie "Liver", we also call the star Riggo Mortis. Seems to fit for some reason.

[JenB]

Erm, well, they were "something weird". So, either aliens or something else. They certainly were not of this earth, or any parallel earth, seeing as they don't like water.

So, aliens or demons. And if they're demons, well, I don't see why water and a baseball bat would do them in.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Run and hide, make a pact with them that we'll leave them alone as long as they will agree to leave us alone.

That's the parallel I was seeing as I watched it; that isolationism wouldn't work.

But think how the "Bush knew!" crowd would react to the movie's secret....

[RMDupree]

Hey, but wait a minute! Didn't Mel chop off one of the alien's finger from under the pantry door?

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

And if they're demons, well, I don't see why water and a baseball bat would do them in.

How about faith?

[HairOfTheDog]

What's different in your mind about them being demons.... they still wreaked actual havoc, and they were real, not imagined.

What was reported on the news on TV? Weren't the TV stations reporting craft over many areas on the news?

[HairOfTheDog]

If the Bush knew crowd reacted that way to the secret, then they would also have to disregard that actual terrorists exist. They aren't just a figment of Bush's imagination. Someone obviously made a parallel, I just think it is more a triangle.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

there was a divine purpose for the kid having Asthma

Not exactly... the point was, that there was meaning in Mel's wife's dying words. If Mel hadn't suddenly realized what she was trying to tell him way back then, the kid still would have died because Mel wouldn't have taken the steps necessary to revive him.

Her being able to warn him about what was needed, was the sign Mel was looking for.

[RosieCotton]

Not saying anything... but if you're right, do you think he deserves to be stuck with Tossie?

No...unless she changes dramatically.

Hm...I'm just remembering the eight letters deal and wondering if I'm way off. Guess I'll know soon.

[JenB]

And nobody else had faith?

In movies, I prefer the logical explanation. Even if it's stupid, too. If you want to include the spiritual world, you have to at least indicate it's a possible explanation.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

He chopped off one of the creature's fingers, yes. That was the same creature that threatened them, later.

[JenB]

Spoiler: it's a happy ending. Nobody dies.

[RMDupree]

Hmmmm....I need to watch that movie again.

Maybe we should watch it together at ShootMoot.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

For goodness' sake, the whole movie was about the spiritual world! About losing faith, and finding it again.

And nobody else had faith?

You didn't catch the part at the end about the creatures being defeated by an "ancient method" which was discovered in the Middle East? You know, the home to three of the world's major religions?

[HairOfTheDog]

If Mel hadn't suddenly realized what she was trying to tell him way back then, the kid still would have died because Mel wouldn't have taken the steps necessary to revive him.

Huh.... I guess that's part of the mix.

[HairOfTheDog]

Faith didn't defeat the bad guys though. A couple hints from the veterinarian Shmymalan about water and an accidental dousing of water did them in.... their faith was restored ~after~ they had won.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Weren't the TV stations reporting craft over many areas on the news?

They reported lights in the sky. Merrill assumed they were some kind of craft, because even though nothing was seen during the day, a bird hit "something" in mid-air, where the lights had been seen.

The news also reports the creatures appearing on the ground, near where the crop circles were found; but no spaceships were ever seen.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

their faith was restored ~after~ they had won.

No, Mel's faith was restored when he remembered his dying wife's words ("Tell Merrill, swing away") and realized what she was trying to say. If he hadn't had faith that it meant something, he never would have repeated it to Merrill.

None of the family realized the effect of the water, until some of it spilled on the alien after Merrill whacked him.

[HairOfTheDog]

OK.... I will keep that in mind when I watch it again, from memory I think I think the 'swing away' thing was more of a human moment than a divine one.