The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky

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[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...
• Seventh Thread: The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...
• Eighth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VIII - Still round the corner we may meet...
• Ninth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IX - A sudden tree or standing stone
• Tenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole X - That none have seen but we alone.
      Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
• Twelfth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XII - Tree and flower and leaf and grass
• Thirteenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[ecurbh]

"He Who Must Not Be Named"... Who is then referred to in nearly every chapter henceforth, usually by name! ;~D

[RosieCotton]

Should I do spoiler text, just in case?

...I pretty much knew right off it had to be Baine, though I suppose there's still SOME wiggle room. Partly it's just because it was instantly obvious that he a) liked her a lot, and b) didn't plan to remain a servant forever. Plus there's the fact that Willis would get a kick out of having "the butler did it" in there, and also later, when Ned asks him if he knows any gentlemen in the area with a name beginning with "C", he answers not "No", but "no gentlemen". So...I'm guessing his first name is something like Christopher or Colin or Charles. We'll see...

Passage is another I have to request from another campus. I should put in a request soon...

How does it fit in with the others? Any common characters?

[JenB]

Not saying anything... but if you're right, do you think he deserves to be stuck with Tossie?

No, "Passage" is a totally unrelated story. No time travel. It's about Near Death Experiences, and the Titanic, and Alzheimer's, and metaphors. A book you have to read twice, very closely, to pick up on all the subtle details.

[JenB]

Villian in Harry Potter. Also "You Know Who", or "Voldemort". Fans refer to him as "Voldie", which is not a fear inspiring name at all.

[Fedora]

This is my drawing of a polar bear fighting a snow leopard in a blizzard:

[JenB]

It seems, Grasshopper, that you did not realize that HTML doesn't work in taglines... for obvious reasons...

[HairOfTheDog]

Village spoiler:

To me the only thing that makes any sense is that this was only chapter 1. The background was laid out through a minor adventure and everyone comes back and thinks they can continue on as if nothing happened.

But in chapter 2, the guard who we left pondering in the road, goes after Ivy and enters the village. This would inevitably shake the village, as the lies about the woods and the news about the reality of the outside would increasingly be revealed.

THAT would be a good story, and one that I could look back and agree that this was a good first chapter of. I haven't heard anything about there being a sequel, but Shymalan is just weird enough to not tell us right away ;~D

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[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Hair: Well, they didn't, but she did. And we didn't see what happened after, so we don't know if everything else continued unaffected.

ecurbh: Yes, I kept wondering if I was seeing references to the War on Terror. And, I agree, the execution could have been better.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

You know, there are lots of people who don't like Signs because the "alien invasion" doesn't make sense.

[HairOfTheDog]

Thematic, but not a plot spoiler:

How is it like the war on terror? I ask because this was written up in that Fox review as somehow being critical of Bush... and we just talked about it and can't see how it works in the slightest as a metaphor for that.

Bush is not isolationist, but rather, could be criticized perhaps as not only participating in the unwanted world, but seeking out and destroying that which he doesn't like about the outside world.

If anything, the village is a better analogy of the "Liberal" view of how to deal with terrorists... Run and hide, make a pact with them that we'll leave them alone as long as they will agree to leave us alone. And perhaps, how that doesn't work.

[JenB]

But it didn't! Why would aliens who are killed by water try to eat people? We're made of water!

Sorry. Nitpicker-mode off.

[RMDupree]

Hi!

Haven't seen The Village yet, but that didn't stop me from reading the spoilers. *grin*

I have seen Hidalgo and I'd have to agree with Hair. The equine actors far surpass the human ones.

Remove the letter "L" and you have higado. "Higado" pronounced "ee-gah-doe" in Spanish means "liver" as in the body organ, so whenever someone asked me and my sister what we were watching, we'd answer "Liver".

I did take note that the horse was liver and white though, so I thought it was a nice touch if it was done on purpose.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

How do you know they were aliens, and who said they were eating people?

[HairOfTheDog]

~Thinking back on Signs.

I thought the whole point in Signs was that there was a divine purpose for the kid having Asthma... That ~he~ could not be poisoned by the evil aliens. Of course, a lot of the other casualties in the rest of the world were not so blessed, nor was the man's wife so saved, but somehow he found ~something~ there that renewed his faith. I am not sure I could have been there and reached the same conclusion, but I am always pleased to see people's faith restored. It comforts me to see that it can happen.

[Fedora]

If Frodo put on the Ring to fight Harry Potter in his invisible cloak, how much would the producers save on the actors' salaries and fx budget?

[JenB]

They were aliens because they weren't human and they were intelligent and I expected aliens, rather than demons.

"Eating people" was just my most likely hypothesis for some stupid aliens. Ok. Assuming they're aliens, whether or not they were eating people, they were certainly on a planet with a heck of a lot of water...

[Fedora]

"Haven't seen The Village yet"

Yay! I'm not alone! :)

[ecurbh]

If the aliens in Signs are so smart, why invade a planet ~covered~ with a substance toxic to them, where that substance often falls from the sky, and with said substance readily available in every home... without wearing any protection?

[HairOfTheDog]

I did take note that the horse was liver and white though, so I thought it was a nice touch if it was done on purpose.

I think you are deeper than they are ;~D

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Nothing in the movie declares them to be aliens, except for the kid reading from his book. Like you Jen, he expected aliens. But there was no objective evidence presented in the movie for that to be true.