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The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: g'nad

hehehe...

Ancient CG phrase: "If it ain't rainin' you ain't trainin'"...


101 posted on 08/05/2004 8:23:03 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Alkhin
G'nad. Don't answer

I have no idea why you said that...

102 posted on 08/05/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

LOL!!!


103 posted on 08/05/2004 8:25:32 PM PDT by Alkhin (just another one of my fly-bys...he thinks I need keeping in order.)
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To: Ramius

Marines is amphibious...


104 posted on 08/05/2004 8:25:38 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: Ramius
Dwarf?? [ahem] :-)

Not literally!

And how are you this evening, Master Sea-Man? Are you still writing stupid SOX stuff?

105 posted on 08/05/2004 8:28:48 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... like you don't have better stuff to do ... like hang out here with us! ...])
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To: Ramius
Kerry, on the other hand, if elected would probably have to prove himself somewhere on the planet by going to war.

And he's such a dork, he would screw it up. He would probably defund the military, and then kvetch about how they don't do the job.

Friends don't let dorks become President ...

106 posted on 08/05/2004 8:33:06 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... vote with the future in mind ...])
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To: Ramius
Ack! Lost my post back to 300winmag in the move. Oh well.

I saw it. Some good points there, too.

My opinion is based on: 1. The human mind is incapable of producing something so complex that that same mind cannot comprehend it (given enough effort).

2. There's always some geek squirreled away somewhere who knows the system (or a key part of it), inside and out. These guys were working magic with IBM systems that we would never see, because it wasn't in the marketing plan, or would compete with some more-favored product.

107 posted on 08/05/2004 8:34:50 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: g'nad
Marines is amphibious...

Don't I know it...

The Recon platoon that I had the honor of playing wargames with for a while was a special group of guys... those guys were just banananutcakes. Loved 'em. You could'a had a meeting with those guys and said... "Your mission is to go out and disable that supertanker with no weapons other than your teeth. You'll swim two miles to the ship, climb up the anchor chain and then take the ship by chewing through the control cables to the rudder." Their answer? "OK". Gotta love 'em. :-)

108 posted on 08/05/2004 8:38:00 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Ramius; g'nad; Rose in RoseBear; 300winmag; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog; All

Almost midnight here, folks. Good night!


109 posted on 08/05/2004 8:43:01 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: My heart remains in Washington....)
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To: SuziQ
Saw your post over on the old thread. How's David settling in?

Don't know if David's told you about the temps here today ... was 102.

And this isn't the hottest part of the year yet. That'll be next month. There'll be a cold front through tomorrow, and temps should only get up to 95 ... yay!

And who told David he wouldn't have to cope with freezing temperatures? There's usually at least one ice storm a year here ...

110 posted on 08/05/2004 8:49:58 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... Lovely Texas weather! ...])
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To: Rose in RoseBear
This is a cool post number too.
111 posted on 08/05/2004 8:57:48 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (7 in binary!)
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To: 300winmag

Roger that. But many human minds working together can create something of which no one person has a complete understanding.

Picture a neural-network software model for global weather modeling. It's a neural network model, with a virtual neural node for every possible data point. And there are virtual nodes in the hundreds of billions or trillions or maybe orders of magnitude more. For every node there are variables in the eight figures. Nomatter how many times you run the model... it will never, ever, follow the same pattern twice.

It would be impossible, in such a system, to ever *prove* that any given result was merely a bug in the software, since it is not reproducible.

It's an extreme example, for sure. But already I have an example of a relatively small network of 25 offices. Each has two connections to the internet, with self-healing VPN connections to any three or four offices on the net. It's petty hard to kill it, but when it goes all fubar... it's also really hard to figure out what's wrong. The conditions that cause a problem can't be reproduced with any level of confidence.

That's what I meant by "biological" in scope. Biological entities have too many variables to be able to predict what they will do given a short set of limitations. We're getting close to the point where there is no one person that still retains an understanding of extant systems.

Just my .03


112 posted on 08/05/2004 9:02:41 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Overtaxed
I guess the worst of today just happened. I feel for him, I truly do.

I went to the store to get some more tylenol and motrin. 10 pm was the time for another dose. Sooo, I woke him up, starting out gently, but only succeeding after almost yelling to get him to even sit up. Then it literally took me yelling to get him to open his eyes. He has started taking the motrin Jr, which you do not chew. So, I endeavored to find a tylenol that would correspond to that. Well, the ONLY tylenol what wasn't chewable has no coating and tastes awful if you suck on it or try to chew it.

Oh man, he was vey upset when he tried to CHEW that nasty pill. I had him spit it out into my hand, so we could try again. Would you believe at this point he laid down with a glass full of water, and spilled it on himself and the bed?

That got him crying. I tried to calm him down, he couldn't hear me, so I had to yell again. Then he thought I was mad at him. I shoulda just given up and let the babe sleep. BUT I was determined to get his dose in before I go to bed sometime in the near future. anyway, we commenced try number two.

Wouldn't ya know he did the EXACT same thing? He tried to chew the darn thing again. Why oh Why does tylenol not make a coated pill KIDS can just swallow? The only coated pill I found was the extra strength which children under 12 cannot take.

You know why he kept chewing it? Because it didn't have a coating on it, and it *felt* just like the chewables he has had in the past. BTW, he ~hates~ any kind of chewable medication because of the flavors, and won't tolerate the liquid forms either ~ he just gags when I give him those.

Tomorrow, I am going to try to find some sort of acetaminophen that KIDS can take without having to chew it up.
< /rant >
113 posted on 08/05/2004 9:03:21 PM PDT by msdrby (Great things come at great cost. - John Nash)
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To: msdrby
It's kilt already.
114 posted on 08/05/2004 9:20:50 PM PDT by msdrby (Great things come at great cost. - John Nash)
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To: msdrby

Oh dear! Just got here in time to read about this. I have seen that elf-boy is sick for 2 days. It sounds like he's miserable. I'm so sorry. Wish there was better news on that medicine. :-(

Just got in from girls night out with 3 of my best girlfriends. One of 'em had a birthday today! We, uh, celebrated real good considering the other 3 have to be at work early tomorrow! :-)

Am glad I can sleep late. All I have to do is pay a little visit to my attorney at my leisure and then wait for the Myranda and s-i-l to get here from Austin.


115 posted on 08/05/2004 9:25:31 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: Wneighbor

Tuesday he started out fine, then at 11am or so he started feeling icky. He threw up and went to sleep for 5 hours. I took his temp and it read 100.6. I gave him some motrin and the fever went down and he got his appetite back (I let him have 6 crackers and some water). Then he threw up again at 5 pm or so (bigtime). I gave him more motrin and he went back to bed. He was a bugger to get to sleep that night!

Yesterday, no barfing. He was on motrin all day, but still had a fever of 99.9. He ate nothing but cheezit crackers and water all day.

Today, no barfing. He was on motrin all day again. He ate a peanut butter sandwich and some peanut butter/saltine cracker sandwiches with water and gatorade (and an occasional reeses mini cup). His temp was 99.2.

I called the nurse at his doctor's office. She said I am doing the right thing, now just alternate tylenol and motrin, and no dairy for at least 24 hours after the fever is gone. Also she asked if we had gone to the lake or swimming ~ methinks mebbe he caught the bug at the church picnic SWIMMING party.


116 posted on 08/05/2004 9:41:37 PM PDT by msdrby (Great things come at great cost. - John Nash)
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To: msdrby

Well, I know it's very tough to have a sick baby. It's still tough to have a sick baby even when your baby is 28 years old like Jill is! LOL

At first when I read of the throwing up I figured it would be gone that day like most kid sicknesses are. I sure am sorry to hear it's gone on this long. Hope he is better tomorrow finally!


117 posted on 08/05/2004 10:11:01 PM PDT by Wneighbor (OH! It's almost time to leave!)
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To: RosieCotton
What a two-faced lying bustard he is...

That what happens when a whole party, and 40% of the country, has drunk the purple Kool-aid of klintonism. It enables them to accept both sides of a contradiction as true, and demand that everyone else follow along.

I heard a clip of Kerry's audio clip from 1971, where he confessed to war crimes of free-fire zones, and search-and-destroy.

This high-powered O-2 must have slept through his NROTC and Navy courses on the rules of war. Those are two technical terms, and are legitimate military operations. You won't find either set of terms in the Geneva or Hague conventions. They may be criminal, but only in how the individual carries them out. He was confessing to "war crimes" (in those two instances) that he did not commit, just as he threw away someone else's medals.

The sickest part is that we are supposed to ignore his past, and focus on his four-month tour in Vietnam as the pinnacle of American military accomplishment. The Vietnam war the RATs have demonized for 30 years is now their proudest moment because it has produced the greatest hero in human history after Bill and Hitlery.

Meanwhile, they continue with their insane (no other way to describe it) mantra of "Bush stole the election, and is a deserter. Oh, and flying F-102s for the National Guard does not compare to four months as a swiftboat commander".

118 posted on 08/05/2004 10:28:36 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: Fedora; Darksheare; g'nad; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; 2Jedismom; Ramius; Corin Stormhands; ...
I just got another email from Col. Frank Johnson. Same message, but it always sounds wonderful to me:

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We have given everything out to Marines and Soldiers who have done outstanding jobs and you cannot believe how your kind gifts are appreciated

The Hobbit hole knives are the best please send them anyway you can, again our guys are doing great things just to be awarded a knife.

I want you to know that what you are doing is a real morale boost for me to know people think our mission here is important and not just "sound bites" But that you take the time to ensure the troops get something to reflect the hope and trust that you have in them and their mission

Semper Fidelis

Frank Johnson

119 posted on 08/05/2004 11:29:32 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: HairOfTheDog
WooHoo New digs! I missed the move and will catch back up when we get to Florida on Saturday. We were gonna leave earlier this morning, but sleep took over. That's ok, we're rested and ready to roll.

See y'all later! Please pray for a safe trip for us!

120 posted on 08/06/2004 3:06:55 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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