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Even though the sun is there why do the universe seems to be dark i.e. why there is no light in universe. After having asked this question how come the earth gets the light.
1 posted on 04/20/2004 1:17:20 PM PDT by shaista
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To: shaista
Because some of us aren't dim bulbs.
2 posted on 04/20/2004 1:18:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: shaista
And this has what to do with geography?
3 posted on 04/20/2004 1:18:52 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: shaista
Even though the sun is there why do the universe seems to be dark i.e. why there is no light in universe. After having asked this question how come the earth gets the light.

I'd rather know why they call them dust bunnies when they don't look the least bit like rabbits. They should be called dust mice or dust voles.

4 posted on 04/20/2004 1:19:00 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: shaista
WHAT YOU SAY!!
5 posted on 04/20/2004 1:19:42 PM PDT by RichInOC (YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: shaista

6 posted on 04/20/2004 1:20:09 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: shaista
?

Welcome to Free Republic.

8 posted on 04/20/2004 1:20:28 PM PDT by kahoutek
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To: shaista
What I want to know is why the sun wastes all that energy shining during the day, when it's already light out.
11 posted on 04/20/2004 1:21:11 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: shaista
Huh...no zot for you, just banishment to the outer reaches of the Chat Forum. Consider it an honor.
12 posted on 04/20/2004 1:21:48 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: shaista
While we're at it, who put the fun in fundascope?
14 posted on 04/20/2004 1:23:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: shaista
Sweetbreads are neither sweet nor breads. Discuss.
15 posted on 04/20/2004 1:23:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: shaista
Big and powerful enough bulb has yet to be created.
16 posted on 04/20/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: shaista
>Even though the sun is there why do the universe seems to be dark i.e. why there is no light in universe.

This is a famous
question in astrophysics.
Here's some text on it:

Cosmology -- Olbers' Paradox

I am indebted to Professor Peter Saulson for the artistic comparisons I use below.

While "his" paradox had been considered by other astronomers all the way back to Kepler, Heinrich Olbers (1926) gave the question its final shape:

Why is the night sky black?

If we assume that

1. the universe is infinite and
2. stars are evenly distributed throughout the universe

we ought to see a star in any direction we look. We can call this "Courbet's Law" because it is exemplified by Gustave Courbet's painting "Deer in the forest." No matter where you look, you see greenery because the forest goes on far enough in all directions to block out any view of the sky.

We can safely assume that all stars have the same surface brightness on the average as the Sun; it is simply that they are so far away that they appear very small. We can call this "Monet's Law" because it's the same principle as when Monet used larger and smaller dots of the same paint to represent near and distant poppies.

Consider a 100-watt light bulb, on the table next to you. It's too bright to look at, right? Now move the same light bulb to the other end of a football field (about 110 meters). It's a lot easier to look at directly, isn't it? That's why we can look directly at distant stars, but NOT at the one we have nearby! The distant stars have the same surface brightness as the Sun, but we see much less of their surfaces because most of their light goes somewhere else.

Now consider this: the light from an individual star falls off as the square of its distance r. But suppose we have spherical shells, spaced at some specified distance apart; each shell has its own distance r. Suppose we have stars evenly distributed on each shell (so that each star occupies a specific area on its shell, the same area from shell to shell). The intensity of light from each individual star will be proportional to 1/r². But the number of stars in each shell will go up according to Area = 4pr², that is, the number of stars (each with brightness proportional to 1/r²) goes up according to r²! If the shells are spaced evenly, then, we are led to the conclusion that each shell contributes the same amount of light to our eyeballs! (The number of stars goes up in proportion to r²; the intensity of each star goes down in proportion to r².)

If Courbet's Law and Monet's Law are true, then every part of the sky should be as bright as the surface of the Sun--in fact, we ought to be fried because everywhere we look the sky should appear as the picture to the left! But instead what we see (or what van Gogh saw, anyhow) is the picture to the right:


For this to be true, one of the assumptions must fail: either

1. The universe is not infinite in extent or
2. Stars are not evenly distributed in the universe.

During the mid-to-late 19th Century, it became apparent that stars did not go on forever: objects which were readily identifiable as stars appeared to get fewer and fewer as you went deeper and deeper into space. The distributions were mapped, and we found that we appear to live in a galaxy about 100,000 light-years across, rather disk-shaped, and the Sun is about 2/3 of the way out from the center along the disk. Viewed from above, the Milky Way Galaxy takes on a spiral shape. Within the galaxy are not only stars, but clouds of gas of various shapes (nebulae) which will eventually form new stars. But stars do not go on forever.

Or so it seemed.

In the 1920s, using a powerful new telescope, Edwin Hubble was able to resolve individual stars within a spiral nebula (the Andromeda Galaxy). This definitively proved that some nebulae were actually galaxies outside our own. Furthermore, as telescopes improved it became apparent that there were galaxies everywhere you looked...

The three main types of galaxies are shown in the pictures below: spiral galaxies like the Milky Way have spiral structure, and look like disks when seen edge-on. Elliptical galaxies are more globular in shape; irregular galaxies have no shape at all.

Just as stars collect into galaxies under their mutual gravitational attraction, so do galaxies collect into clusters. Some clusters are rather small, like the Local Group, which contains the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies and a few small satellite galaxies; or very large, like the giant cluster in Virgo (shown at right).

Astronomers have identified clusters of clusters ("superclusters") and even larger structures, called "walls" and "voids". The universe appears to have structure on as large a scale as we can examine it.

But what does this do for Olbers' Paradox? If there are galaxies everywhere you look, why is the night sky black?

Let's digress a little...

When astronomers take the spectrum of the Sun or other stars, we find the spectral lines of various elements, where they have absorbed light from the star. These lines allow us to identify the components of the stellar atmosphere (cooler than the surface behind it). When we look at some stars, we find that the spectral lines are shifted from their normal positions because of the star's motion: a Doppler Effect for light! If the wavelengths are shortened (a blueshift) the star is approaching us; if the wavelengths are lengthened (a redshift) the star is receding from us.

When astronomers looked at the spectra of galaxies, they found that while a few were blueshifted (notably the Andromeda Galaxy, which will eventually collide with the Milky Way), almost all galaxies are redshifted--they are receding from us! In fact, when Edwin Hubble started establishing distances to various galaxies, he found a relationship between distance and redshift: the further away the galaxy is, the faster it is receding from us! This relationship is linear, and described by the Hubble Constant.

The lovely thing about the Hubble Constant is that its reciprocal is a good estimate for the age of the Universe; the current best values lie between 60 and 80 km/s/Mpc, giving the Universe an age of between 12 and 16 billion years.

Incidentally, we shouldn't think that we're at a central position just because all the galaxies are receding from us. Think of each galaxy as a dot on a balloon. Now blow up the balloon. Each dot will recede from its neighbors, and vice versa. Furthermore, the neighbors of the neighbors will recede faster, and so on and so on. But this is true for every dot, and no dot is in a privileged position.

But if the Universe is expanding, it must have begun at some finite time in the past (current best estimates are 12-16 billion years). This led Father Georges Lemaître, a Jesuit priest and cosmologist, to propose what we now know as the Big Bang Theory. This theory, now dominant in cosmology, asserts that the Universe began in a gigantic explosion which synthesized all the matter of the Universe, in the form of hydrogen (~80%), helium (~20%) and smatterings of lithium, beryllium and boron. All the higher elements were synthesized in the cores of stars.

At last we have a solution to Olbers' Paradox. If the Universe has a finite age, it does not go on forever: we only see the light which has had time to reach us! Even if there were something physical "outside the universe", we couldn't see it because the light from it has not had enough time to reach us! If the universe is a finite age, it isn't "infinite in extent", and the first assumption of Olbers' Paradox fails.

17 posted on 04/20/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Hey, let's lighten up!
Shaista is probably
a kid. As I said,

this is a famous
question. Lots of adults have
a hard time with it.

Anyone can search
on Olbers' Paradox for
the full discussion.

This short answer is
clipped from the end of my long
post up in the thread:
"At last we have a solution to Olbers' Paradox. If the Universe has a finite age, it does not go on forever: we only see the light which has had time to reach us! Even if there were something physical "outside the universe", we couldn't see it because the light from it has not had enough time to reach us! If the universe is a finite age, it isn't "infinite in extent", and the first assumption of Olbers' Paradox fails."

30 posted on 04/20/2004 1:31:08 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Series answer: because you can't see the light until it smacks you in the face.

To do this, light either travels directly to your face from the sun, or bounces off of something, then smacks you. Out in the "universe", there is nothing for the light to bounce back from, and then smack you in the face, so it keeps going and you can't see it.
32 posted on 04/20/2004 1:31:59 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: shaista
After having asked this question how come the earth gets the light.

Because, the Earth sucks.

33 posted on 04/20/2004 1:33:08 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to be you)
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To: shaista
Hey, where did you go?
54 posted on 04/20/2004 1:48:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: shaista
ALL YOUR UNIVERSE ARE BELONG TO US
74 posted on 04/20/2004 2:42:49 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: epigone73
Here is a fine example of what I meant when I mentioned "issue-based discussions."

Everyone needs to laugh now and then and Monty Python isn't on 24/7.

75 posted on 04/20/2004 3:35:25 PM PDT by grellis (Mi sento male. Ho fatto un'indigestione!)
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To: shaista
If there was no dark, how would you know what the light is anyway?
78 posted on 04/20/2004 4:56:55 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building! Able to leap tall bullets in a single bound!)
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To: shaista
welcome to freep. why the dumb question?
93 posted on 04/20/2004 8:15:15 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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