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M&M's obsession leads to physics discovery
CNN ^ | February 16, 2004

Posted on 02/16/2004 4:30:29 PM PST by Cultural Jihad

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Professors Paul Chaikin, left, and Salvatore Torquato used M&M candies to reveal fundamental principles governing the random packing of particles.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Princeton physicist Paul Chaikin's passion for M&M's candies was so well known that his students played a sweet practical joke on him by leaving a 55-gallon drum of the candies in his office.


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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: candy; geometry; math; mathematics; physics
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1 posted on 02/16/2004 4:30:30 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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If M&Ms pack themselves with a density of 68%, then a 55 gallon drum filled to the top with M&Ms contains how many pints of air?
2 posted on 02/16/2004 4:35:53 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Physiclicious.
3 posted on 02/16/2004 4:36:49 PM PST by RunningJoke
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To: Cultural Jihad
...gee...and I wasted all those years in Political Science...
4 posted on 02/16/2004 4:37:19 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: Cultural Jihad
...gee...and I wasted all those years in Political Science...
5 posted on 02/16/2004 4:37:38 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: Cultural Jihad
140.8
6 posted on 02/16/2004 4:50:18 PM PST by FreedomFlynnie (Your tagline here, for just pennies a day!)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Mmmmmm, Physics!


7 posted on 02/16/2004 5:00:49 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Cultural Jihad
Not too hard to understand, since oblate spheroids have flatter surfaces than spheres and so leave less room between them. And if M&M's were made out of perfect squares, they would pack nearly 100% of the container.
8 posted on 02/16/2004 5:06:50 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I do not like the new "Starbucks-style" coffee lids at Dunkin' Donuts)
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To: FreedomFlynnie

Hey, there's still room for over 23 six-packs of these!

9 posted on 02/16/2004 5:37:11 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: SamAdams76
Not too hard to understand, since oblate spheroids have flatter surfaces than spheres and so leave less room between them.

If all of the oblate spheroids were oriented identically, I would expect them to pack to the same density as spheres. The density improvement comes I would think from the fact that the oblate spheroids can be rotated to fill in the nooks and crannies. As a very crude analogy, a 13-card bridge hand is more likely to have a 4-3-3-2 distribution of suits than 4-3-3-3 even though the latter would be more "uniform".

10 posted on 02/16/2004 5:41:11 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: SamAdams76
Perhaps the hard edges of the cubes somehow act to maintain more space than the soft-edged M&Ms would, in a random fill. (?)
11 posted on 02/16/2004 5:43:35 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Here are some useful links on the subject. Incidentally, the Prof.Denis Weaire mentioned in these articles in the same person who unwittingly gave Ira Einhorn a boarding room. He is also probably the most important Irish scientist since G.G. Stokes.

http://physicsweb.org/article/review/13/12/10

http://www.susqu.edu/facstaff/b/brakke/kelvin/kelvin.html

http://www.queenhill.demon.co.uk/polyhedra/wp/wp.htm

12 posted on 02/16/2004 5:58:32 PM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: SamAdams76
when poured randomly and shaken

I don't think cubes would occupy more volume under these circumstances, just speaking from experience. Of course, I haven't done any formal studies. :-)
13 posted on 02/16/2004 6:11:01 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Cultural Jihad
Mars Inc., which makes M&M's

Hmmm --- and they're wondering what those spheroidal particles are that the Rovers are finding...

14 posted on 02/16/2004 7:09:01 PM PST by mikrofon (Plain or Peanut?)
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To: supercat
13-card bridge hand is more likely to have a 4-3-3-2 distribution of suits than 4-3-3-3

I don't think so. A 13 card bridge hand is more likely to end up with 13 cards than with 12. 4+3+3+2=12.

15 posted on 02/16/2004 7:37:29 PM PST by PAR35
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To: SamAdams76
Not too hard to understand, since oblate spheroids have flatter surfaces than spheres and so leave less room between them. And if M&M's were made out of perfect squares, they would pack nearly 100% of the container

I am wondering about the aha moment here. It seems obvious....
16 posted on 02/16/2004 8:13:06 PM PST by mlmr (Everything is getting better and better!)
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To: PAR35
I don't think so. A 13 card bridge hand is more likely to end up with 13 cards than with 12. 4+3+3+2=12.

How about 4-4-3-2?

Though I have on occasion gotten 4-3-3-2's. And of course, the infamous 4-3-3-2-1.

17 posted on 02/16/2004 8:16:26 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Cultural Jihad
This is cool info.
18 posted on 02/16/2004 10:04:11 PM PST by Chewbacca ("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
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To: supercat
How about 4-4-3-2?

That one I'll buy.

19 posted on 02/17/2004 8:03:57 PM PST by PAR35
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To: AdmSmith
physics is fun Pong
20 posted on 02/19/2004 11:11:30 AM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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