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To: RosieCotton; Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; All
Ok, I am fuming.

I get to school and there's a letter for me. From the official whoevers, saying that because I've only taken 6 credits of math there, and the other 11 credits at the community college, I can't get my math minor. Only I took 9 credits there. So I'm furious all through class. I went down to the registrar's office and point this out and the lady says no, one class doesn't count because it's only Math 180, and it has to be a 200 level course.

Now, I've been at my school for three years. I've had two advisors. I asked both advisors several times, will this math minor thing work, I want to get it, are you sure I don't have to take any more classes. They assured me... and now it's too late, I'm graduating in three months.

I'm going back Thursday to talk to the actual registrar. Oh, am I mad! I'll hand him his head on a platter if need be, but I want my minor!

This, 2J and Rosie, is on top of the fact that unless I get a letter from the school district saying I was a good little homeschooler, they won't let me graduate. I was done with high school 5 years ago, I have an Associates' degree... it makes me so mad...
6,919 posted on 02/17/2004 2:17:38 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
This, 2J and Rosie, is on top of the fact that unless I get a letter from the school district saying I was a good little homeschooler, they won't let me graduate. I was done with high school 5 years ago, I have an Associates' degree... it makes me so mad...

Oh heavens, my blood pressure!! Are you SERIES? Why do you need anything from them anyways???

It's like Steve and I applying for financial aid back when he was getting his bachelors...they wanted to know all about what his PARENTS make! PUHLEEZ! We were MARRIED for pete's sake! And in our thirties!

Had a college dorm couselor tell me I couldn't keep (empty, decorative) wine bottles in my room. I said "Are you telling me, I'm 23 years old, been drinking since I was 18 (the legal limit back then) and I can't keep pretty empty bottles in my room??" "But what would your parents think?" was their reply! No kidding! I said "I've been living on my own for FIVE YEARS...my parents couldn't care less!"

6,922 posted on 02/17/2004 2:24:36 PM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: JenB; g'nad
You have my axe.

Hey g'nad, didja here that? We're going to see the Amish...
6,933 posted on 02/17/2004 3:17:34 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Will FReep for tag line...)
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To: JenB
I'm going back Thursday to talk to the actual registrar. Oh, am I mad! I'll hand him his head on a platter if need be, but I want my minor!

I got a note (this was pre-email) from the math department a month before graduation. It said I couldn't graduate because I didn't take all the required classes as spelled out in the 1965 catalog (am I dating myself here?). I rushed in to the office the next day with my transcript for my eight credits for my 1964 advanced placement freshman calculus I took in high school, and the 1964 catalog that I was admitted under.

After I pointed out that I met all the course requirements of the 1964 catalog, the secretary admitted that she hadn't noticed that, and just sent out a zinger to me along with the poor schmucks who really weren't graduating.

Most of the others were grad students who hadn't paid the $25 graduation fee. I heard one of them whining to her department advisor, who was my advisor, too. Standing in the hallway, I heard my advisor tell the grad student, "I'm really sorry you missed the notice on the math department bulletin board. But it's partly our fault. Once you get your bachelor's, the math department does all the thinking for you, relieving you of all responsibility of even looking at the board. That's why I prefer advising the undergrads, because we require them to think for themselves. Once you get to grad school, we ask you to turn your brain off."

6,942 posted on 02/17/2004 3:41:39 PM PST by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: JenB
> Ok, I am fuming.

That sounds frustrating!--hope that gets straightened out for you. My sister-in-law had the same kind of problem when she transferred from one college to another. And then I have an incomplete on my record because I thought I had withdrawn from a class but at the end of the semester I found out someone had screwed up the paperwork, and nobody at the school office could figure out how to fix it. Grumble. . .

Anyway, hope you're able to get your minor. Maybe if you can get written statements from the advisors who told you that you didn't need to take another class it would help?
6,950 posted on 02/17/2004 4:22:57 PM PST by Fedora
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To: JenB
oh dear, sorry to hear that. I know what you are going through. I had a similar experience when I was a double major (Sociology and Russian) and the university cut finding for the Russian dept. in half ~literally. Went to my advisor and had to scramble my degree plan so I could have something coherent to go on, and then ended up applying for graduation that semester. Only, when push came to shove, I got the lil ole letter saying I had not taken all 4 credits of phys ed! Imagine my dismay. It got settled, but I did not get to receive my diploma upon walking across the stage. I had to wait another two weeks for that 1 hour of phys ed to process.

On another note, my mother is a graduation advisor at Ut-Arlington. She is one who gets to send those lil letters out to people telling them they cannot graduate for whatever reason.

What I would do in your position:
find a copy of the degree plan, or get one from the dept advisor showing where your credits fall according to the catalog. Make sure it shows any substitutions made as well.
If you have a copy of your transcript, or even an unooficial student copy, that will do, take it with you (plus the catalog you were admitted under) and the degree plan from your advisor to the registrar's office.

Those registrars really have no idea what havoc they wreak, and do not readily communicate with the departmental advisors. If your dept told you it was good to go, then it should be good to go, and you can get a copy of the degree plan filed on your behalf to prove that you jumped through all the hoops. Good luck.
7,345 posted on 02/18/2004 2:20:19 PM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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