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The Guild 11-30-2003 The Dems' Changing Tune on Iraq; Past Quotes Reveal Hypocrisy
ChronWatch ^ | 11-30-2003 | Jean Shaw

Posted on 11/30/2003 8:16:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

It’s no secret that Democrats’ opposition to the war in Iraq has more to do with politics than principle, but the following collection of quotes (which has been making its way around the Internet) provide further proof.

''One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

''If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

''Iraq is a long way from [here] but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

''He [Saddam Hussein] will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.'' -- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

''[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.'' -- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D, MI), Tom Daschle (D), John Kerry (D, MA) and others Oct. 9, 1998

''Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.'' -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

''Hussein has . . . chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

''There is no doubt that . . . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.'' -- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

''We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.'' -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

''We know that he [Saddam Hussein] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

''The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons. . . .'' -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

''I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

''There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . . . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

''He [Saddam Hussein] has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do'' -- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

''In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. . . . It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.'' -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

''We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

''Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . . . He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. . . . And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. . . . So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real. . . .'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


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To: mountaineer
Thanks for being there today. I just couldn't make it today.

Wait. I was there. I was the small shy quiet guy wearing a Clark for President button. ;-)



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121 posted on 12/02/2003 9:47:39 PM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Badray
I read your report. Way to go. I just don't have the patience to pull something like that off. Thank you for doing so.
122 posted on 12/03/2003 4:46:03 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Badray
You would have had a field day "debating" with the protesters. As you well know, though, it's nearly impossible to conduct rational discourse with most of the leftists, because they refuse to stick to the facts. One guy who kept trying to pick a fight with me would say, "You said ...(blahblahblah) ..." and I'd have to stop him with "Wait a minute, I never said that or anything like it. How can you quote me as saying something I never said, in order to make your argument. You're just setting up straw men." Then he'd change the subject. I finally gave up with him, which he probably regarded a victory (he was one of the spitters, too).
123 posted on 12/03/2003 5:00:04 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
That spitting thing really bothered me when I read your initial report.
124 posted on 12/03/2003 5:05:47 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Iowa Granny
They were getting so overwrought and caught up in their hatred that they spoke too quickly, too loudly, and didn't control their saliva spewage (kind of like rabid dogs). Take a breath, swallow, already!

Another odd exchange occurred between the Hair Hat Guy and one of the college boys. Mr. Toupee was ripping on them simply because they were in college, accusing them of living on daddy's wealth and all kinds of stupid stuff. The kids didn't know how to respond to such nonsense. Then he proclaimed, "I didn't go to college and I make $100,000 a year!" So I answered, "So you're one of those rich people who appreciate the Bush tax cuts?" That made him mad - not mad enough to make his toupee spin, but it flustered a little more spittle from him.

125 posted on 12/03/2003 5:11:47 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I'm glad the college kids were there,, it gives me hope for the future. And there's safety in numbers, I'm sure it was easier for you to deal with the hate mongers with the back up of a bunch of young and agile "right" thinkers.
126 posted on 12/03/2003 5:20:19 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Iowa Granny; All
Isn't it always the U.S. (in the person of President Bush and Republicans) who get blamed for the death of the Kyoto Treaty?

Eventually somebody is going to have to stand up and formally declare the Kyoto Protocol to be dead. Now might be the time, since it's best to clean these global policy carcasses off the scene before rigor mortis sets in. Yesterday, for the umpteenth time in two months, a Russian official announced his government isn't prepared to ratify the 10-year-old United Nations plan to control the world's weather by controlling greenhouse gas emissions.

Speaking in Moscow just as another UN climate change extravaganza was starting up in Milan, Andrei Illarionov, President Vladimir Putin's economic advisor, said Kyoto is inconsistent with Russia's growth objectives. "Adhering to the provisions of the Kyoto Treaty and achieving economic growth are incompatible," he said. full story

127 posted on 12/03/2003 5:28:09 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Thank Goodness people are beginning to see the light over Kyoto. It held the potential to drive the U.S. economy into a deep dark depression.
128 posted on 12/03/2003 6:20:26 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Iowa Granny
Amen to that. Death to Kyoto.

Good morning, everyone.
129 posted on 12/03/2003 6:22:02 AM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: mountaineer
Great job! I saw one of the spitters on the news last night being dragged away with the cuffs on, he was yelling the entire time. It made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.:)
130 posted on 12/03/2003 6:45:42 AM PST by pubmom
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To: mountaineer
I think we need to start a foundation for angry leftists with bad toupees, HLL reported a very scary rug at her most recent Presidential event.
131 posted on 12/03/2003 7:07:48 AM PST by pubmom
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To: Iowa Granny
Thank you for the invitation! It has been an enjoyable visit and I would love to drop in again.
132 posted on 12/03/2003 7:58:52 AM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm)
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To: pubmom
As the protest wound down (around the time the lefties were running after luncheon attendees and harassing them), the collegiate Republicans and I were chatting and laughing with a police lieutenant. I think it was evident to all which groups were full of hate and violence!
133 posted on 12/03/2003 8:05:30 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: *The GUILD
Listen to Derry Brownfield

His guests are discussing their new
cookbook - a pleasure to hear.

Back to the paint war.


134 posted on 12/03/2003 8:26:24 AM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: lodwick
Derry Brownfield's show is from 10 - 11am, central time.
135 posted on 12/03/2003 8:56:25 AM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: Iowa Granny
Thanks, IG.

I hope to be able to follow up and really get their heads in a twist. Maybe I can get them 'spitting mad' at me. LOL
136 posted on 12/03/2003 10:30:13 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: mountaineer
You done good. Anytime that you can get them 'spitting mad' they really show themselves to be the idiots they are.
137 posted on 12/03/2003 10:34:54 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: mountaineer
I had been waiting for your report. Thank you for an excellent first hand account. This is not good weather for standing outside. I recommend late May. :)

The Michigan event had one protester and I couldn't read the sign. The abortion bus was also there. I hate that thing.
138 posted on 12/03/2003 10:52:00 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Only one protester in Detroit? That's amazing, considering there are pockets of left-wing 20-something anti-capitalists/anarchists/extremists in every major city. Consider yourself (and the local Republicans) blessed to have avoided the nonsense I observed in Pgh. yesterday. It was somewhat depressing to see such ignorance on public display.
139 posted on 12/03/2003 10:57:28 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: All
Isn't this just about as pathetic as it gets ...

Dec. 3 — One of the Bush twins got an unwelcome musical dedication. Barbara, the Yalie, was at a club called Rudy’s in New Haven recently where the all-gay punk group Pansy Division was playing. During the concert, the band dedicated its virulent anti-Bush song, “Political A———,” to Barbara Bush.

“I DIDN’T SEE her reaction,” singer and guitarist Jon Ginoli tells The Scoop. “I’m not even sure that she was in the room at the time — she might have been in the back room playing pool or something.” But, he adds, “the crowd loved it.”

A spokesman for the Bush family had no comment. “We don’t discuss anything the girls do,” he told The Scoop.

This is what passes for reasoned discourse from the left, yet they're just so thrilled because they think they've gotten away with something so terribly clever. It's like the girls at the Pittsburgh protest doing their lame anti-Bush cheers.

140 posted on 12/03/2003 1:07:16 PM PST by mountaineer
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