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The Guild 11-30-2003 The Dems' Changing Tune on Iraq; Past Quotes Reveal Hypocrisy
ChronWatch ^ | 11-30-2003 | Jean Shaw

Posted on 11/30/2003 8:16:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

It’s no secret that Democrats’ opposition to the war in Iraq has more to do with politics than principle, but the following collection of quotes (which has been making its way around the Internet) provide further proof.

''One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

''If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

''Iraq is a long way from [here] but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

''He [Saddam Hussein] will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.'' -- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

''[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.'' -- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D, MI), Tom Daschle (D), John Kerry (D, MA) and others Oct. 9, 1998

''Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.'' -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

''Hussein has . . . chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

''There is no doubt that . . . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.'' -- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

''We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.'' -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

''We know that he [Saddam Hussein] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

''The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons. . . .'' -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

''I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

''There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . . . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

''He [Saddam Hussein] has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do'' -- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

''In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. . . . It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.'' -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

''We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

''Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . . . He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. . . . And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. . . . So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real. . . .'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


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One thing I forgot to mention: as people - apparently guests of the president's luncheon - left the hotel, the leftists started chasing them down and jeering at them. The other conservatives and I just looked at each other and shook our heads, but made sure all other departing guests saw our signs of support (considering we were about the only ones the fortitude to stick it out the entire two hours).
101 posted on 12/02/2003 2:47:56 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Great job, mountaineer -- service under duress!

But no fish sandwich?

102 posted on 12/02/2003 2:53:22 PM PST by They'reGone2000 (And we hope they're not coming back!)
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To: They'reGone2000
DOH!! I was so darned cold, it was all I could do to get back to Steel Plaza and catch the T, so I forgot the fish sammich.
103 posted on 12/02/2003 2:56:44 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Thanks for the excellent sit-rep!

Sitting here laughing about the "anti-anti-persperant" tag.

Was hideous toupee guy wearing a green shirt?

Nice work, M, thank you.
104 posted on 12/02/2003 3:28:17 PM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: mountaineer
Great report, M. Good job.


105 posted on 12/02/2003 4:25:58 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
Dennis "Lost in Space" Kucinich had a few backers at the Bush protest in Pittsburgh today. Coincidentally, in today's NY Post appears this:

DEMOCRATIC presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich is trailing in the polls, but he's first in the hearts of left-leaning vegetarians. The Ohio congressman hosts a meat-free fund-raiser Sunday afternoon at Counter on First Avenue featuring "organic wine and beer," French lentil loaf, breaded mushrooms and other treats. Veggie vixens interested in diminutive, twice-divorced politicians would do well to stop by. Kucinich recently described his ideal first lady as a "dynamic, outspoken woman who wants world peace, health care for all and a full-employment economy." Go get 'em girls!

106 posted on 12/02/2003 4:41:07 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Thank You for being there, mountaineer. Way to go!
107 posted on 12/02/2003 4:44:53 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: mountaineer
If we had a golden statuette called "The Guilder", you'd certainly be nominated for your performance today! Great report.

_______________________________

And there's evidence your efforts paid off!

GWB's approval rating is up to 61% in the latest Annenberg poll. And THIS part of the report must just be killing the Dem Dwarfs...

Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent (favorable).
Way to go!
108 posted on 12/02/2003 4:45:49 PM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Thank you, thank you. I'll settle for a gilded deviled egg dish.

Just when you thought the N.Y. Times couldn't sink any lower, or fabricate any more ...

The really interesting stories in The New York Times continue to appear on the corrections page. And one of the most fascinating was the paper of record's retraction concerning an obituary for Marvin Smith, the famed Harlem photographer.

The problem? It seems The Times had mistakenly castrated the 93-year-old man. Reporter Douglas Martin wrote in the Nov. 12 obit that Smith had had "his testicles removed" after his twin brother, Morgan, died of "testicular cancer" in 1993. In the correction, the Times admitted that the account, "given to The Times by a friend of both men," was wrong. "It should not have been published unless it could be verified and attributed," the paper noted on Nov. 19. "After the obituary appeared, Monica Smith, the daughter of Morgan Smith, told The Times that her father had had prostate cancer and that her uncle [Marvin Smith] did not have his testicles removed." ... source

109 posted on 12/02/2003 5:00:00 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
How about Chelsea as a mate for Kucinich? She is a vegan and a "dynamic, outspoken woman who wants world peace, health care for all and a full-employment economy." Guess he is a bit old for her...she has already had two dads, bio and BillyJeff. But still, they might hit it off...lol.
110 posted on 12/02/2003 5:01:01 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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Did anyone ever hear the outcome of that story about the Iraqi baby rushed to an Israeli hospital for specialized surgery? I never heard whether the baby made it.
111 posted on 12/02/2003 5:10:17 PM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Wow, those poll numbers are impressive...thanks for sharing.

I agree about the Italian Job-very entertaining but you do have to pay attention which is a nice change from some of the movies I have seen lately.

I am being dragged kicking and screaming to see Love, Actually next week. Am told that it is Americanized English - a remake of Cheaper by the Dozen. Would rather see Radio.

112 posted on 12/02/2003 5:11:17 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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"Cheaper by the Dozen???" No way. Totally off the mark.

Think "Benny Hill" meets "Four Weddings and a Funeral".

Example: Hugh Grant, who has just been elected Prime Minister, falls instantly in love with one of the maids at No.10 when she repeatedly uses the F-word and other profanities at their introduction.
113 posted on 12/02/2003 5:22:18 PM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
How timely. I was just about to post this about P.M. Tony Blair - and how he has, in essence, called Bill Clinton a liar in a press conference:

QUESTION: A two-part question. Recognising the parameters of your own privacy, there is an issue about your health. Just on the question of the irregular heartbeat, Bill Clinton is quoted as saying you told him years ago you had an irregular heartbeat and that you had problems with it. Is that true, or indeed is the content true whether he said it or not? And the second question is, isn't the sheer scale of executive power that you enjoy, and it is greater than most other western leaders, actually bad for any young man's heart?

PRIME MINISTER: Right, well on the first all I can say to you is I have never had this condition before, it happened, it was over in a day and I was back at work. In relation to the second, the job of British Prime Minister is a busy and hectic job and I think I remember for most British Prime Ministers those before and after photographs that you so kindly provide in so many of the Sunday newspapers showing what you used to look like and what you look like now, but you know that is part of the ageing process and it is a tough job, but it is voluntary, as you know.
full transcript

114 posted on 12/02/2003 5:24:39 PM PST by mountaineer
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Just remembered another vignette from today's good vs. evil confrontation at the Westin. Some Dean or Kucinich supporter in front of me - a woman about my age - was screaming something about Bush accepting campaign money from someone (darn, these people are incoherent), so I said, "Clinton gave weapons technology to China in exchange for campaign contributions." She whirled and, in a voice dripping with contempt, said, "Oh pleeeaaassse. Don't give me that!" I just looked at her, nonplussed, and said, "Well, he did. Did you miss seeing Al Gore with the Buddhist nuns?" It was hard not to laugh, but on the other hand, the whole day was somewhat disturbing. It's just hard to comprehend the ignorance - willful ignorance - of so many people, in addition to their hatred and bile.
115 posted on 12/02/2003 5:34:32 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
...left-leaning vegetarians?

Redundancy police, pleae.
116 posted on 12/02/2003 5:47:40 PM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: mountaineer
Thanks for standing out in the cold on our behalf.

What a bunch of idiots. How did you ever maintain your control? I am very proud of you.
117 posted on 12/02/2003 6:02:20 PM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: lodwick
...pleaSe?...doh.
118 posted on 12/02/2003 6:16:47 PM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: mountaineer
It is really the pits FReepin' in the cold, but the low temperature probably killed a few of the germs attached to the spittle being spewed. (Always look for the silver lining, my Granny used to say.)

Thank you for being there, standing your ground and taking 'em on.
119 posted on 12/02/2003 8:18:02 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm)
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To: Flora McDonald
Welcome Flora.

For a minute there I thought you were quoting me.

We hope you'll visit us often.
120 posted on 12/02/2003 8:37:14 PM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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