Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

And this crash was mostly French passengers so...we will never be told

From the mirror article I linked above....

"US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft"

Don't you guys think that is why we were asking and checking about seat assignments on that first plane that came in (AirFrance) I believe. I think if you were going to blow yourself up it would be important to be sitting in the right part of the plane like Richard Reid. I don't know if the bathroom would be a good place or not.

Arabic version of Auto Trader? It parks! It runs! It waits patiently at home for you!

Also, I'm interested in seeing just how closely these tunnels connect to cities with KNOWN terrorist groups/cells.

Terrorist Cells Too Close For Comfort (Just over the border in Canada) The Washington Times ^ | December 10, 2003 | Jerry Seper- Posted on 12/09/2003 10:23:51 PM PST by quidnunc- Buffalo, N.Y. – They're hiding in plain sight, just north of here — a short striking distance away from some of America's most-vulnerable targets. - This silent army of terrorists, including members of al Qaeda, has the "capability and conviction" to support devastating attacks across North America, operating out of "sleeper cells" from Montreal to Vancouver, according to U.S. and Canadian law-enforcement authorities. - Attorney General John Ashcroft has called the 4,121-mile U.S.-Canada border a "soft spot" for terrorism, and law-enforcement authorities in both countries think that cell members in Canada — and others who have relocated to the United States — are awaiting orders, financing and a window of opportunity to strike again.

Here is the full list of Rumsfeld's rules:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/595267/posts

These two are my favorites:

"Hire paranoids. Even though they have a high false alarm rate, they discover all plots." (Herman Kahn)

"Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence." (Judge Larry Silberman)

It helps keep your balance of things.

That is almost the exact map I have. Thank you, as I can't scan my map. Okay, from this route, we'll see what we find.

Looks like they were keeping surveillance on a particular car, they were even giving the larger view of where it's parked next to the building.

It does make one wonder. I hope one of the people who speak Arabic can take a glance and tell us what it says.

Fried brain here to...I've seen it but do not know if it was here...

The "Working on overload with only 40 meg of space in my brain" Piper

Do you know how many times I watched that Barney Unplugged at whitehouse.gov? LOL!

Check out the link.

http://www.hostinganime.com/kataeb/k31.htm

There are also pictures of the building where the car is parked, etc.

Go to the link -- there are more pictures and a whole long discussion in Arabic.

http://www.hostinganime.com/kataeb/k31.htm

See your a complex investigator -smiles- NXT for me tis just a crossword up/down NYC is next-simpleminded investigator that I am -hehe-

Some people would hide in secret compartments, such as cupboards, trap doors, secret tunnels, and even indoor wells. One man slept under his friend's floor board for over a year. In one station along the Underground Railroad, there were trap doors that led to the attic, which was in the side of the wall.

A route in west Tennessee apparently went through Memphis where it is believed that German immgrant, Jacob Burkle helped escaping slaves from 1849 to 1863. Under his house is a cellar and tunnels that oral tradition maintains were used to hide slaves until they could be moved on to another station.

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When the first settlers came to New Jersey, they took shelter in the local cave systems until their homes were established. Maybe that's when the underground craze started.

But what was the reason for these tunnels to have continuously been built after most of the Indian Nation had diminished? One theory is because of British rule; colonists took to these tunnels to fend off the redcoats during the American Revolution. One underground passageway unearthed in Newton was an arched brick-lined tunnel that extended 100 feet, then stopped dead. What was its purpose? Obviously some thought was put into the construction. A historian was brought into the passage and he confirmed the tunnel's architecture to date to the early 1700s. Colonists seemed to be obsessed with making passageways underground, and from stories told to Weird NJ, that obsession has never stopped.

We only have to bring up the subject of tunnels (and we do, a lot) and we're told of routes underground that have legendary proportions.

"When I was in Kearny High School, we spent many Saturdays in the 1920s exploring the old Schuyler Copper Mine on the east side of the ridge." says Merrill Harvey in a recent letter. "The mine was opened by Schuyler in the 1700s, the richest mine in the colonies, according to Ben Franklin."

The Schuyler Copper mines have recently been the talk of the town in North Arlington, where shaft holes occasionally swallow up neighbors' back yards, as with the case of Pat Acocella's home, where the first mine shaft opened up in 1989, making Bergen County officials scramble to collect state emergency funds to seal the 279-year-old divot. Thirty- two similar holes were fixed with a matching federal fund. To construct these tunnels must have been an amazing feat, and some of these manmade wonders still exist. The Dutch Reformed Church of Belleville, a historic landmark built in 1692, has a tunnel that goes underneath the Passaic River into Lyndhurst.

"There was a folktale regarding a tunnel from the mine to the church which no one believed," stated Harvey. "How could a tunnel run from the mine at least a mile or more down and under the Passaic River? I remember a tunnel in the mine which was always flooded and a flashlight showed it going down and under the water. However a few (10 or 15) years ago a young man organized a 'schuyler Historic Foundation" to research the mine and I was one of those who answered a letter in the Star Ledger and became a member. I met and talked to two members of the foundation who, in the 1930s, had followed that tunnel (dry) down and under the river and came up to what was the church wall! They found no exit apparently and went back as they had come. This at two different times, as they did not know each other then.

I talked to a young man who had told me that he saw the entrance in the basement of the church.

"I lifted the door in the floor and there it was!" he said. The church people were interested but afraid of publicity so there was no follow-up. So there it is, the only entrance now to the mine with its 75 foot shaft, rooms with 40 foot ceilings and a flooded tunnel."

Judy Gluck, whose family roots go back many generations in Bloomfield, recently visited the Bloomfield Steak House, once her ancestor's homestead, and one of the oldest houses in the state.

"The owner of the building let me see the hidden tunnel," she writes. "It's not open to the public, probably because of insurance reasons. It was exciting to me . . . going down the old staircase - the wooden door leading to it is ancient, with old original beams. The tunnel beginning is large. It surprised me - the size of the room. People could have very well stayed there comfortably for awhile. It goes for about 15 feet and then it is walled up. As I stepped up onto the stone threshold I thought how my ancestors had led people into it. I knew the tunnel had been used to hide the women and children of the Davis family from British terrorists that came to town while their men were away fighting the Revolution."

Maybe these tunnels had a reason after all.

Weird NJ was invited to speak at the Central Jersey Grotto meeting to dispel rumors of rampant tunnel activity in Northern NJ.

The grotto seemed quite amused that we would think these tunnels are real, since they've never seen them. We didn't get any answers from them pertaining to manmade tunnels, but we did see a few pictures of local caverns they have mapped. What we didn't understand was why one of these spelunkers would take a picture of himself naked inside a cave.

Recently a few amateur spelunkers fell into a 50-foot shaft in northern NJ. None were seriously hurt but spent a good 24 hours in a big hole in the ground. Tunnels and adventure - they go hand in hand.

At a local bar we struck up a conversation with a patron who claims there are tunnels from the Ballantine House in Newark that go for a mile. No doubt an escape route for the famous beer baron or an access tunnel to one of the many brewery rooms underneath the city. Brewery vats were recently uncovered by the Department Of Transportation during construction work on one of Newark's pot-holed streets. More tunnels . . . everywhere.

A church in Newark claims to have a tunnel escape route that was used for the Underground Railroad during the Civil War. We talked to a local historian that was invited to see this tunnel shaft that opened up from a door on the church floor.

"It was there. I saw it, but I was afraid to go into it," he said.

It would seem only natural for tunnels to be used during prohibition, being that was the only way to transport liquor - and of course every speakeasy needed an escape route.

We visited a bar in Bergen County that had tunnels from the cellar to another building across the street.

"If these walls could talk," said the elderly owner, whose father ran the business when local gangsters were regular customers.

"The tunnels were used to bring liquor in when my father didn't want to pay the prices he was told to pay," he said. "They've been boarded up for years."

Larger structures built in the early 20th century, such as hospitals and factory complexes with more than one building, used underground passageways to easily get from one place to another without the hassle of climbing stairs or avoiding inclement weather.

One such structure we were invited to view was a county mental institution, whose tunnels were legend when I was younger. The stories of escaped mental patients living in the tunnels were always local lore whenever we rode by.

Although the tunnels were no longer used, they once contained beauty salons, recreational rooms, wood shops and an occasional escaped patient.

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I like and prefer your answer.

Are we sleeping yet? ;)

This gives me a headache just reading it!
We need a math whiz, are you one Deb?

The "Mathematically Dyslexic" Piper

Some here have commented about the # 19.Not that this means anything just some facts.In the movie Blackhawk Down just before the raid one of the soldiers told his buddies "let's roll", there where 19 US soldiers killed in that raid. Movie was made in 2001. There was 19 hijackers and we know what Tod Beamer said.Sometimes life is stranger than fiction.