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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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LINKS OF INTEREST (Updated Daily)
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA!" (Updated Daily)
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
1,201 posted on 11/07/2003 2:18:00 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Yes, Al-Qaida did give veiled warnings. Very veiled.
I still don’t agree with taking every threat as a deadly serious warning. It gives free publicity to the terrorists and helps their cause by spreading fear – their proven goal in life.
1,202 posted on 11/07/2003 2:30:15 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott
re post no 1202...

I agree with you.

1,203 posted on 11/07/2003 3:36:40 AM PST by Cindy
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To: R. Scott
Disagree. Spreading fear is the goal of Stephen King. Destroying Western civilization is the goal of Al Qaeda. Fear is the smallest weapon in al Qaeda's arsenal of terror.
People aren't exactly abandoning New York City because of an Internet post.

They can accomplish a lot more toward their goal by actually carrying out one of their threats, and that can be prevented by vigiliance, even with the B.S.
1,204 posted on 11/07/2003 6:23:16 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: rwfromkansas
The day after the eclipse is guess what....11/9.

Actually, the eclipse does not end until 3:05 GMT on 11/9. Also, maximum eclipse is at 1:19 GMT on 11/9.

1,205 posted on 11/07/2003 7:07:03 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Reactionary
The moon has a red tinge, as well.

Clear reference to the lunar eclipse on Nov 8-9:

Mark your calendars for an astronomical event that you don't want to miss. In the early morning of Sunday, November 9, most of the Western Hemisphere and Europe will be treated to a total lunar eclipse... Over the course of a few hours, the Moon darkens, until it's fully obscured and then turns a deep red colour.
Universe Today
1,206 posted on 11/07/2003 7:13:54 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: oceanview
Hiroshim and Nagasaki were both relatively clean airbursts.

You blow up a dirty bomb laced with cesium or worse, cobalt, yes you could render all of Manhattan uninhabitable.

http://www.fas.org/faspir/2002/v55n2/dirtybomb.htm
1,207 posted on 11/07/2003 12:59:48 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: JohnathanRGalt; yonif; backhoe; F14 Pilot; JackRyanCIA; sarcasm; Dog; Sabertooth
SUNSPOT.net: "FBI PROBES SUSPICIOUS INCIDENT AT JEWISH GIRLS MIDDLE SCHOOL" by Andrew Green (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The parent reported to the school's principal and police that the pair videotaped the entrance to the school and the girls as they were leaving the building. When the parent approached them, according to the letter and a police report, they fled. The parent reported the license plate number of the car, and Baltimore County Police, and members of the FBI's terrorism task force have questioned the driver and are in contact with him, Spetner said. The man is a Saudi national who is a student at a local college, Spetner said. According to a police report, he lives in the Fallstaff neighborhood of Northwest Baltimore.") (November 5, 2003) (Read More...)

1,208 posted on 11/07/2003 3:01:14 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
I'm glad there was nothing suspicious...
1,209 posted on 11/07/2003 3:04:26 PM PST by null and void
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To: ravingnutter
Another interesting thing concerning "DaJeel..."

He seems to be misspelling things on purpose. He has a fascination for the letter "a."

1,210 posted on 11/07/2003 3:16:42 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: finnman69
Thanks for posting this information.

Given that the dust cloud from a cobalt bomb could disperse radition over three states in a pencil-shaped pattern, perhaps the Jihadists are planning on using them to symbolically "cut the US into three parts" using them.

They're quite fond of veiled references.

1,211 posted on 11/07/2003 3:22:03 PM PST by Reactionary
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re post 1209: "I'm glad there was nothing suspicious"

You forgot </Sarcasm off>

or else you forgot that question, "So, what else is new?"
1,212 posted on 11/07/2003 3:23:15 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Sabertooth; Area51
Well since Cynthia means "moon godess" I guess it's appropriate for me to post this article link for all of the moon watchers...


SPACE.com: "TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE SATURDAY SHOULD BE COLORFUL" by Rbert Roy Britt (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Those with fairly dark skies will be able to see the Moon, vaguely, even during totality. It is expected to take on an orange or reddish color as light from all the worlds sunsets and sunrises is bent through Earth's atmosphere and falls on the lunar surface, then is reflected back to Earth. To picture this, imagine standing on the Moon during this event: An astronaut there would see the Sun eclipsed by Earth, with a reddish halo created by light being bent through the atmosphere of the home planet. Because the Moon is near the edge of the shadow, the coloring effect should be greater than what occurred during the May 15 eclipse. The Moon may take on the sort of blood-red hue that frightened the ancients.") (November 7, 2003)

1,213 posted on 11/07/2003 3:25:30 PM PST by Cindy
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To: ravingnutter
Interestingly enough, their literature says that the Mahdi will appear after what appears to be a "blast from the sky." Believers are cautioned to stay away from windows, as the blast will send shards of glass flying everywhere.

And the Jihadist's references to the volcano in Yellowstone? Another veiled reference, I think.

1,215 posted on 11/07/2003 4:10:39 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: JackRyanCIA
Yep. I like that phrase "frightened the ancients."

In reality, some ancient-type scocieites just haven't changed much with time.
1,216 posted on 11/07/2003 4:13:30 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Reactionary
re post 1215 and a "blast from the sky"...A couple links of interest...


An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding an ANANOVA.com article: "TWO KILLED IN PHILIPPINES AIRPORT DRAMA" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Officials have confirmed that two men who tried to seize the air traffic control tower at Manila airport have been killed in a shoot-out with security officers. Former air transport office chief Panfilo Villaruel and Ricardo Gatchalian were killed in the incident, Edgardo Manda, general manager of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport said. "Our special operations unit has neutralised the situation," he said. Officers tried to persuade Villaruel to surrender after he occupied the control tower office but negotiations failed. It is believed the victims were carrying handguns. National security adviser Roilo Golez said Villaruel took over a highly sensitive installation that required immediate police action. He said Villaruel's action could have paralysed air traffic and affected national security and the economy." (Read More...)
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman - PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: "MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA" (PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT SNIPPET: "Credible information has indicated terrorist groups may be planning attacks against U.S. interests in the Middle East. Terrorist actions may include suicide operations, bombings, hijackings or kidnappings. These may also involve commercial aircraft and maritime interests. While conventional weapons such as explosive devices are a more immediate threat in many areas, use of non-conventional weapons, including chemical or biological agents must be considered a possible threat. Terrorists do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. Increased security at official U.S. facilities has led terrorists and their sympathizers to seek softer targets such as public transportation, residential areas, clubs, restaurants, places of worship, hotels, schools, outdoor recreation events, resorts and beaches.") (November 6, 2003) (Read More...)

1,217 posted on 11/07/2003 4:16:53 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
From what I've gathered concerning the Jihadists, they appear to believe that the following events are going to take place.

The double eclipse and the "convergence" of the planetary bodies that will happen on the 8th-9th will herald the coming of the Imam Mahdi.

Bin Laden will mark this event with terrorist attacks against the cities in the United States. He will martyr himself. He will do so during the eclipse, when the moon is red.

The Mahdi will be revealed to the world.

This "cosmic convergence" will also cause the super volcano at Yellowstone to explode.

These events will mark the beginning of the Mahdi's war against America. He defeat us and will then establish a worldwide Islamic state.

That's what they're saying.

1,218 posted on 11/07/2003 4:37:40 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
Excerpt from http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EK07Ak02.html

"...Muqtada al-Sadr, also issued a conciliatory statement on Saturday, November 1. The young Sadr and his followers in the Army of the Mahdi have been increasingly clashing with US troops, as well as more moderate Shi'ite groups. Alarmed by US army threats that he would be arrested as a rabble rouser threatening Iraqi stability, Sadr issued a statement asking American troops to spare Iraqi lives, calling for unity and brotherhood between the Americans and the Iraqis.

He stated that Saddam Hussein was a "sinful aggressor" and that he and his backers were the real and only enemies of Iraq, not the Americans. Sadr described Americans as guests in Iraq, adding that they were "peace loving people". He also stated that the Iraqi people only want good for the Americans (credit for translation of Sadr's statement goes to Juan Cole, professor of history at the University of Michigan ).

These statements were a repudiation of Sadr's earlier comparison of the IGC and the new Iraqi regime to Saddam's government. Sadr has been lashing out at the US as a result of Pentagon threats to arrest him. Many of his followers have already been arrested and his house was searched last month after he declared a shadow government and an unarmed militia that was in fact heavily armed.

Sadr had also accused the US and CPA of provoking Shi'ite infighting in order to divide their ranks, though he had simultaneously discussed recognizing the IGC if it were enlarged (presumably to include him) and if Bremer's veto power was removed.

However, Sadr's radical departure from his previous hostility to the US was contradicted in private the same day by one of his main deputies in Baghdad. Seyid Hasan Naji al-Musawi, the 38-year-old imam of Sadr City's Muhsin mosque and commander of Sadr's Army of the Mahdi in Baghdad, said that the final days were approaching in which the Mahdi would return. Shi'ites believe that the 12th imam, Mohammed al-Mahdi, a descendant of Mohammed, went into an invisible supernatural location when he was a child, and he has ruled the world from there, but that he will one day return to the corporeal world and restore justice, accompanied by Jesus Christ.

Musawi declared that America's real purpose in coming to Iraq was to kill the Mahdi. "Iraq will be the end of America," he said, "the Mahdi will be coming soon and when he comes he will kill the Jewish leadership," which he equated with the Americans, adding that Julius Caesar was Jewish, and the Jews were the Romans. Musawi quoted a verse from the Koran prognosticating the eventual defeat of the Jews. He added that the Mahdi would be coming from the Hejaz area of Saudi Arabia, accompanied by Jesus, and he would also kill many clerics who wear the imama, or Shi'ite turban."
1,219 posted on 11/07/2003 4:40:57 PM PST by debg
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To: Reactionary
re post no. 1218...

Well, that's an interesting summary...sounds like a possibility...hope it's an utter failure if that's what the plan is.
1,220 posted on 11/07/2003 4:49:05 PM PST by Cindy
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