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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
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| 11-3-2003
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Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil
Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator.
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To: Calpernia; Mo1; All
![](http://images4.fotki.com/v45/photos/3/34606/104985/osama21-vi.jpg)
Is it me? Or does that send shivers down anyone elses spine?
It definitely sends shivers down mine. brrrrrrr! It did the moment I spotted it on one of the Arabic sites it was posted on.
That looks like an eclipsed moon in the pic. Everyone knows UBL loves symbolism so this one really got my attention, knowing the lunar eclipse is this weekend.
This thread is a great example of why I fell in love with FR when I first found it. There are more reasons now, of course.
But the way so many pitch in with additional info and links, whether to support or debunk a report, is what makes FR the best site on the 'net. My thanks to all.
I'm not sure how seriously to take all this but I'll say I'm glad right now that I live in the boonies. And I'm praying nothing happens.
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posted on
11/06/2003 1:24:45 AM PST
by
radu
(May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
To: Cindy
1. Chatter increases before an attack (anywhere in the world). Yes, chatter on telephones, Emails and various other sources of intelligence.
2. Warnings often are given before attacks. Yes, but most warnings are bogus an attempt to instill fear in the targets and make them waste resources. Remember that traditionally Al Quida has given no warning. Any warning from them is likely bogus.
3. A lot of the Jihadi B.S. posted on the internet is just jihadi propaganda -- but not all of it is. Most of it is B.S.
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Aw, Sweetie this doesn't even come close to being the longest running thread.
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posted on
11/06/2003 4:16:00 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
To: GOPJ
Just came across this:
Suitcase Nuke Basics
October 22, 2003
A "suitcase" bomb is a very compact and portable nuclear weapon and could have the dimensions of 60 x 40 x 20 centimeters or 24 x 16 x 8 inches. The smallest possible bomb-like object would be a single critical mass of plutonium (or U-233) at maximum density under normal conditions. The Pu-239 weighs 10.5 kg and is 10.1 cm across. It doesn't take much more than a single critical mass to cause significant explosions ranging from 10-20 tons. These types of weapons can also be as big as two footlockers. The warhead consists of a tube with two pieces of uranium, which, when rammed together, would cause a blast. Some sort of firing unit and a device that would need to be decoded to cause detonation may be included in the "suitcase."
Another portable weapon is a "backpack" bomb. The Soviet nuclear backpack system was made in the 1960s for use against NATO targets in time of war and consists of three "coffee can-sized" aluminum canisters in a bag. All three must be connected to make a single unit in order to explode. The detonator is about 6 inches long. It has a 3-to-5 kiloton yield, depending on the efficiency of the explosion. It's kept powered during storage by a battery line connected to the canisters.
Effects
External radiation occurs when either part of or all of the body is exposed from an external source, such as when a person is standing near the site of where a radiological device is set off and he or she is exposed to radiation, which can be absorbed by the body or can pass completely through it.
Contamination occurs when radioactive materials in the form of solids, liquids or gases are released into the air and contaminate people externally, internally or both. This happens when body parts such as the skin become contaminated and/or if the harmful material gets inside the body via the lungs, gut or wounds.
Incorporation of radioactive material occurs when body cells, tissues and organs such as bone, liver, thyroid or kidney, are contaminated.
Gamma radiation can travel many meters in the air and many centimeters once in human tissue; therefore they represent a major external threat. Dense material is needed as a shield. Beta radiation can travel meters in air and can moderately penetrate human skin, but clothing and some protection can help. Alpha radiation travels a very short distance through the air and can't penetrate the skin, but can be harmful if inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through open wounds.
Radiation in the first hour after an explosion is about 90 percent, with it going down to about 1 percent of the original level after two days. Radiation only drops to trace levels after 300 hours.
Symptoms
People in the immediate vicinity would likely die from the force of the conventional explosion itself. Some survivors of the blast might die of radiation poisoning in the weeks afterward. Those farther away from the explosion might suffer radiation sickness in the days and weeks afterward, but recover. Over time, risks of cancer in the affected area would rise, but perhaps only slightly.
A mix of physical symptoms must be used to judge the seriousness of exposure. Impact of radiation poisoning also changes if the body has experienced burns or physical trauma. In the case of treatable victims, extensive medical treatment may be needed for more than two months after exposure.
Some symptoms may include vomiting, headache, fatigue, weakness, diarrhea, thermal burn-like skin effects, secondary infections, reoccurring bleeding and hair loss.
Treatment
If detection and decontamination occurs soon after exposure, about 95 percent of external radioactive material can be removed by taking off the victim's clothing and shoes and washing with water. Further decontamination may require the use of bleaches or other mild abrasives.
Treatment of a victim within the first six weeks to two months after exposure is vital and is determined by what types of radioactive isotopes to which the victim was exposed.
Medical personnel will treat victims for hemorrhage and shock. Open wounds are usually irrigated to cleanse them of any radioactive traces. Amputation of limbs may occur if a wound is highly contaminated and functional recovery isn't likely.
If radioactive material is ingested, treatment is given to reduce absorption and enhance excretion and elimination. It includes stomach pumping or giving the victim laxatives or aluminum antacids, among other things.
If radioactive material has gotten into a victim's internal organs and tissues, treatment includes giving the patient various blocking and diluting agents, such as potassium iodide, to decrease absorption. Mobilizing agents such as ammonium chloride, diuretics, expectorants and inhalants are given to a patient to force the tissues to release the harmful isotopes. Other treatments involve chelating agents. When ingested, these agents bind with some metals more strongly than others to form a stable complex that, when soluble, are more easily excreted through the kidneys.
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/readyguide/suitcasenuke.htm
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posted on
11/06/2003 4:17:39 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
To: LayoutGuru2
1,165
posted on
11/06/2003 4:21:11 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
To: snickeroon
My brother just returned from Yellowstone a few weeks ago. Yes, he said some sections of the park were closed. From what I understand the temp. levels are increasing (maybe in Old Faithful)which I had read about here on Free Republic. He certainly didn't act like he thought anything covert was going on - just safety concerns.
To: freeperfromnj
So what's the word on the Fruit Man this morning?
To: Donna Lee Nardo
>>>More than anything else, that is what al qaeda's stated intentions are; they want to destroy America and the easiest way to do that is to take away its economic power. Rather than kill or maim many people, dirty bombs would wreak havoc with the economy by shutting down an area of a city or an entire city.
Im not saying terrorist attacks arent deadly, I am saying the threat of them is far more effective than the attack itself.
These people, terrorists, cant conceive a nation as big as ours is with as much resources as we have. These weapons are made to cause panic, terror, and to demoralize. If we dont run around like sheep they wont use this stuff after they find out its no fun. The government is going nuts over this stuff because they have to protect every inch of America. Youve only gotta protect yourself, and by doing that, you help the country.
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posted on
11/06/2003 8:05:28 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Labyrinthos
I was busy this morning and forgot to check in -- still a no-show.
To: snickeroon
"How long has it been since you have heard ANY reference at all being made about the nation's current code color or a peep from Homeland Security?"
Well we got our own alert threat matrix now. It's on the yahoo group. Funny how we pay more attention to that then the Govs.
To: CJ Wolf
Something's Up
November 5, 2003
Something's up, folks! In the last four days The Lampholder web site has received numerous hits from Saudi Arabia and other predominantly Arab countries. In fact, our Log Analyzer report from Saudi Arabia indicated, "NOTE: If you experience high volume of traffic from IP in this block it is because your site is very popular/famous of Saudi Arabia community."
The Lampholder has taken notice that when something is about to happen, such as a terrorist attack, Saudi traffic to The Lampholder increases tremendously.
Saturday, November 8, 2003
When Lavanah (Moon) is in eclipse, it is a bad omen for Israel... And it is certain that the Sun and the Moon are the most powerful causes of events... and eclipses by which, beyond doubt, the affairs of the world are changed (Apian 1540). The early Rabbins considered an eclipse of the Moon (Lavanah) as a "bad omen." A "blood red moon" symbolized violence, war, and evil factions rising up...a red moon especially indicated a period of judgment for the wicked. (Isaiah 13:9-10; 24:23)
To: Mossad1967
where is that from?
To: gingerky; All
New messages up at Daleel_Al-Mojahid_
From: "daleel_almojahid" <daleel_almojahid@y...> Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:42 am Subject: YELLOWSTONE SUPERVOLCANO GETTING READY TO BLOW ITS CORK (LOOK AT GODS WELL)
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posted on
11/06/2003 10:17:31 AM PST
by
LayoutGuru2
(Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
To: LayoutGuru2
Yup. He's reading FR.
Hi Daleel!
*waving*
To: LayoutGuru2
There is a prominent link to the Osama21.jpg (full-size, you can read the email address at the lower-right corner) file at the Faroq (http://www.homepagez.com/faroq/) website.
![](http://www.homepagez.com/faroq/images/osama21.jpg)
I think I'll send jehade99@hotmail.com some email from my yahoo account. While I am at it maybe I should sign him up at a couple MLM sites. :)
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posted on
11/06/2003 10:38:22 AM PST
by
LayoutGuru2
(Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
To: null and void
Yup. He's reading FR. Hi Daleel! *waving*![](http://members.aol.com/bonita974/animated/8.gif)
Daleel is a lurker? Hi Daleel!!! Please send me some FreepMail!!!
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posted on
11/06/2003 10:52:13 AM PST
by
LayoutGuru2
(Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
To: R. Scott
re your post no. 1162:
"1. Chatter increases before an attack (anywhere in the world). Yes, chatter on telephones, Emails and various other sources of intelligence. 2. Warnings often are given before attacks. Yes, but most warnings are bogus an attempt to instill fear in the targets and make them waste resources. Remember that traditionally Al Quida has given no warning. Any warning from them is likely bogus.
3. A lot of the Jihadi B.S. posted on the internet is just jihadi propaganda -- but not all of it is. Most of it is B.S."
Hello Mr. Scott. Answering your comments point by point.
Re. point No. 3: I agree. "Most of it is B.S."
Re. point No. 2: You may want to investigate 9-11 documents/archived info sites that do show Al-Qaida did give veiled warnings, ie the Calendar, numerous web sites with their postings on forums, graphics "with messages" etc. Of course, this is all hind-site, too. Now all this is known and documented.
Al-Qaida is not like ELF. Elf gives out press releases to the media after almost all of their dastardly deeds, Al Qaida doesn't.
Re. point No.1: It is my understanding that "chatter" includes all forms of communication methods. The internet is included as a communcation source (especially forum boards and web sites) and should be perused daily.
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posted on
11/06/2003 12:56:19 PM PST
by
Cindy
To: LayoutGuru2
re post no 1173...
I read that too this morning. This Daleel guy doesn't give a flying finger about Yellowstone. IN MY OPINION, he's just using an American place that we admire to make us aware that he knows about America, he thinks America is bad, he likes to see things blow up, and sees Yellowstone as having that potential of blowing up.
Let's face it, now this Daleel guy is having his version of fun, but jeez louise Daleel, who will have the last laugh? Not Daleel, that's for sure.
God works in mysterious ways. Prayer is powerful.
New messages up at Daleel_Al-Mojahid_
From: "daleel_almojahid"
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:42 am
Subject: YELLOWSTONE SUPERVOLCANO GETTING READY TO BLOW ITS CORK (LOOK AT GODS WELL)
Do you know anything about this americans?
do you know that god wipes out nations when they commet all kinds of injustice and become a nation of evil?!!
open your eyes before its too late.
look at this site :
http://www.earthmountainview.com/yellowstone/yellowstone.htm
alaah akbaar
daleel_almojahid
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posted on
11/06/2003 1:11:23 PM PST
by
Cindy
To: All
1,179
posted on
11/06/2003 1:27:07 PM PST
by
Cindy
To: tubavil
Heard any outrage from those peaceful Muslims here that aren't supposed to be terrorists?
I haven't.
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posted on
11/06/2003 1:33:43 PM PST
by
nmh
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