Posted on 10/20/2025 8:25:54 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
Ukrainian President Zelenskiy’s latest White House visit to secure Tomahawk missiles reportedly devolved into a contentious “shouting match” with President Trump. According to anonymous sources, Trump, fresh off a phone call with Vladimir Putin, made a stunning reversal. He allegedly pressured Zelenskiy to surrender the entire Donbas region, warning that Putin would “destroy” Ukraine otherwise. Trump was said to have cursed, tossed aside battlefield maps, and repeated Russian talking points verbatim, including calling the conflict a “special military operation.”
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Well spotted. These op-eds promoted on these threads are just so much "paid-to-scribble" articles. As the flogged blog says, they 'go both ways,' so to speak.
“”The rest is speculation. If Putin were really trying to force Ukraine’s capitulation, there’s no reason for Trump to meet Putin. So something else is going on.””
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Here is my speculation...
Trump knows Putin for what he is. Stubborn, determined and also a shrewd negotiator. There is a modicum of respect there, going both ways. That said, Trump just wants the killing to end. Putin is holding out for Trump to sweeten the deal with whatever is Putin’s bottom line demands.
Despite what Putin projects as determination to stay in it for the long haul, Putin is war-weary and ready to make a deal. The ‘deal’ has to make it look like Putin came out on top and on the winning end, however.
The Ukraine war will end soon, despite all best efforts by the radleft to keep it going, hoping that the war can and will outlast Trump’s term in office so the grifting and scamming can continue.
Why not carve up Russia to the original Countries? Language?Most of Central and South America speak Spanish... Should Spain now own those countries
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Now tell me what % of those also speak Ukrainian? After WWII Russia outlawed Ukraine language. So, most older Ukrainians speak Russian.
“”...tragically there will probably be an idiotic Democrat sitting in the White House fairly soon who will give Putin everything he wants while pretending to be tough on russia.””
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It would be much more likely... if that were the case ... ie another idiotic Democrat sitting in the White House... that they would give Z everything he wants while actually being tough on Putin/Russia. At least, that has been my observation on how the rats would do the deal based on theire past history.
The Democrats would love to keep the Ukraine war going on.... forever, if they could manage it. Yet another reason why they hate Trump. He is upsetting their money-laundering schemes on every level.
That said, I am perplexed as to why Putin simply doesn’t accept the Trump ideas of ceasefire at current lines, etc. clearly, Russia is paying a high price for trying to get 20% more land. If Putin were to agree to stop where they are at, he gets most of his goal, and gives Trump a reason to not continue military support for Ukraine. If Putin refuses Trumps proposals, then Trump probably gives Ukraine better weapons (up to and maybe including Tomahawks) which certainly will cause Russia increasing damage and losses. It simply doesn’t make sense to me.
Ukraine has no useful advantage in rare earth resources
You’re right.
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This is what somebody says that President Trump said, rather than something that President Trump actually said...
Let Peeutin surrender to Zelenskiy.
this war started in 2014
soon it will be YOUR children coming home in rubber bags.
No, it really won't. Trump won't commit U.S troops - even Biden wouldn't do that.
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