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To: CDR Kerchner

I would say, we need to pick our battles, and this one is log pass its time. There are many more important issues to be addressed right now.
Even if Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere else in the world, he was a son of US mother, so he was eligible for presidency. And even if he were not eligible, what else could be done? Undo his eight years of presidency?!

This stuff makes us look crazy, almost like TDS of Dems.
Maybe this is ODS?


18 posted on 08/22/2025 10:21:20 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: AZJeep

This was the start of the globalist, deep state sediruous conspiracy (16 year plan - 8 yrs of Obama followed by 8 yrs of Hillary) to make the USA communusr (as Obama would day, radically transform it). A lot of crimes were done by our govt at local, state, and national levels to covwr thus uo. One of them being, imho, the murder of my husband.

This not only matters, it is the coenerstone to prosecute everything.


24 posted on 08/22/2025 10:33:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: AZJeep

I’m in agreement with you, we have countless battles that have to be fought, illegal immigration, mail in ballots, census, congressional redistricting, war in Ukraine and the economy just to name a few, we have to win each one and Obama’s birth certificate is no where near the top of the list of issues


25 posted on 08/22/2025 10:34:30 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: AZJeep

Maybe if he gets his own FBI raid and investigation and charges of things like treason, we might start to see Obama use the Kenya citizenship excuse.

That would be a nice twist on an old story.


30 posted on 08/22/2025 10:45:48 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: AZJeep

“I would say, we need to pick our battles, and this one is log pass its time. There are many more important issues to be addressed right now.
Even if Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere else in the world, he was a son of US mother, so he was eligible for presidency.”

First his mom was under age, so could not transfer citizenship. Second, his father was British (they were part of the British empire at the time) and we have a treaty concerning this. Thus, Obama would have been born British. I seem to remember something about “You can’t be a British Subject and POTUS” somewhere.

“And even if he were not eligible, what else could be done? Undo his eight years of presidency?!”

Public Hanging. It would get people attention and settle this issue about Sedition and Treason.

“This stuff makes us look crazy, almost like TDS of Dems.
Maybe this is ODS?”

How many ‘crazy’ conspiracy theories of Conservatives are now obvious facts? Russiagate, Lawfare gate, Debanking gate, Clinton’s charity non-profits?, Raid on Trump’s house, really......need I go on. Obama and Biden have done horrific damage to the nation. If he committed Treason and Sedition, and has other loyalties, then the first step to fix things is to let the truth out.


32 posted on 08/22/2025 10:48:21 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: AZJeep

Untrue.


37 posted on 08/22/2025 10:56:38 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: AZJeep
I would say, we need to pick our battles, and this one is log pass its time. There are many more important issues to be addressed right now. Even if Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere else in the world, he was a son of US mother, so he was eligible for presidency. And even if he were not eligible, what else could be done? Undo his eight years of presidency?! This stuff makes us look crazy, almost like TDS of Dems. Maybe this is ODS?

Entirely agree. What would it change? Does anybody honestly think that after all this time Obama will be indicted, let alone prosecuted and convicted for anything? Only in the bitter fantasies of a handful of, as you say, ODS sufferers.

43 posted on 08/22/2025 11:06:39 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: AZJeep

I disagree. Obama needs to be exposed as a counterfeit president.


50 posted on 08/22/2025 11:23:26 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (Term limits will get rid of corrupt politicians faster than delivery of Jimmy Johns sandwich)
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To: AZJeep

Your argument is sound, but...

I don’t ever want to hear a Democrat say, “No one is above the law.” The new phrase should be, “No one is above the law except Obama. He can do whatever the hell he wants.”

I also don’t want to ever hear a Republican say, “We are a nation of laws.” The phrase should be, “We are kind of a nation of laws, sort of, so long as enforcing them seems to be convenient at the time.”

We all knew that the document was a forgery, an investigation could have been done at any time, but those in charge were afraid of being called names.

If you or I had committed forgery, like with a check, or had committed identity theft, we’d be in prison. Clearly, some are above the law.


56 posted on 08/22/2025 12:11:34 PM PDT by ThomasNast (2350)
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To: AZJeep

AZJeep wrote: “Even if Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere else in the world, he was a son of US mother, so he was eligible for presidency.”

Wrong! Being born to a foreign father who was not even an immigrant to the USA, and a U.S. Citizen mother would get at best basic Citizenship for Obama, aka Barry Soetoro. And even that is questionable since Obama’s mother was a teenager when Obama was born and under the laws in place at the time, with a foreign national father, if Obama was born in Kenya, Vancouver Canada, or Indonesia as Chris Matthews asserted on TV: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2016/09/09/flashback-early-birther-chris-matthews-in-dec-2007-aired-on-msnbc-the-clinton-operatives-talk-about-obama-born-in-indonesia-and-obamas-islamic-background/ , she was not old enough to have her son be considered a U.S. Citizen, given the laws in effect at the time Obama was born.

The Constitution, Article II Section 1 Clause 5, requires the President and Commander-in-Chief to be a “natural born Citizen”. That is the only constitutional office that requires that. Other offices in the Constitution only require one to be a basic Citizen. But not for the President and Commander-in-Chief. And adjectives mean something when placed in front of the noun “Citizen”. See: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2024/08/08/citizen-at-birth-term-vs-natural-born-citizen-term-grammatical-and-logical-analysis/

A “natural born Citizen” is a person born in the USA to a U.S. Citizen father and U.S. Citizen mother. A person born with “sole allegiance” to the USA. Obama was born with allegiance to the King of England via his Kenyan father. With a foreign national father who was never a U.S. Citizen, nor even an immigrant to the USA, it does not matter where Obama was born — he is not and never can be a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. This is “Natural Law”, the Laws of Nature and Nature’s Creator, not the laws of man. For more on the “Natural Law” term “natural born Citizen” see: http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm


58 posted on 08/22/2025 12:15:01 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: AZJeep
he was a son of US mother,

She was under-aged to marry at his birth, IIRC ... so question she could confer citizenship arises ...

70 posted on 08/22/2025 12:56:24 PM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: AZJeep

Be a natural-born citizen of the United States
Be at least 35 years old
Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years

A natural born citizen is a person who is a U.S. citizen at birth, typically defined as someone born on U.S. soil or to U.S. citizen parents. This status is important for eligibility to run for President of the United States, as specified in the Constitution.


77 posted on 08/22/2025 1:51:48 PM PDT by dljordan (The Rewards of Tolerance are Treachery and Betrayal)
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