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Professor John Mearsheimer pontificates on the changing situation Trump faces with Ukraine and Russia.
1 posted on 08/22/2025 7:53:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods
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Screw the corrupt ukes and ruskies!


2 posted on 08/22/2025 7:56:55 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than saving to WORK of !US:-)p)
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“the responsibility for the war and for dealing with Putin into the hands of the Europeans”

Where it belongs. Of course, their track record for preventing WWs and dragging the US into it is not great. This case seems no different.


3 posted on 08/22/2025 7:59:02 AM PDT by TheDon (Remember the J6 political prisoners! Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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The professor is right that there can be no solution but on the battlefield. Bad situation.


4 posted on 08/22/2025 8:06:35 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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George Soros is deeply saddened.


5 posted on 08/22/2025 8:16:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of racism, anger, hate and violence.)
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TDS is a dangerous drug


6 posted on 08/22/2025 8:17:13 AM PDT by iamgalt
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Trump now realizes that he can't manage an end to the war. It's out of his hands.

Problem with Mearsheimer is he refuses to consider that Russia could have imperial ambitions and that the invasion’s objective could be territorial and not "defensive".

On the eve of the invasion, Putin explicitly argued that Ukraine never had “real statehood,” and said it was an integral part of Russia’s “own history, culture, spiritual space.” After the invasion, he went on to compare himself to the 18th century Tsar, Peter the Great, and to declare that Russia was simply reclaiming its territory.

7 posted on 08/22/2025 8:19:53 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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This will probably end up at a stalemate. Hopefully the killing will end.


8 posted on 08/22/2025 8:28:46 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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John Mearsheimer also confidently assured us that Russia would not invade Ukraine under any circumstances, that Ukraine would capitulate quickly, with popular support, when they did, and that admitting Sweden and Finland into NATO would immediately result in full war between Russia and NATO.

He’s 77, and past his sell by date. He is now driven by emotional bias, rather than objective analysis.


10 posted on 08/22/2025 8:29:58 AM PDT by BeauBo
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This war will continue for another 5 years.


11 posted on 08/22/2025 8:30:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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The real problem is for zelensky. Once the war ends, people will want to assess why it was fought in the first place. The answer, of course, was endless money and NATO’s experiment with controlling all Ukrainians with a government app, etc.

Zelensky will probably be taken out by his own military if the war continues badly, which it is, but will probably be taken out by AZOV remnants if he does end the war. Who knows what happens to Kolomoisky.

That said, the war will end inevitably because Ukraine is almost out of men. All they have are drones and a little bit of armor.


12 posted on 08/22/2025 8:37:01 AM PDT by struggle
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is pushing the responsibility for the war and for dealing with Putin onto the ha into onto into the hands of the Europeans uh and the Ukrainians who again are working very closely together.

And this is wrong because?

Trump tried his best to end the war. The warring parties, and the Euros, want it to go on, particularly if the US is funding it.

But the US funding is over. If the Euros want to fight Russia using Ukraine as their proxy, they're welcome to finance the fight.
14 posted on 08/22/2025 8:39:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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Trump now realizes that he can't manage an end to the war.

It is not immediately apparent just who made that statement, but I am not certain that was ever Trump's goal.

It seems more likely Trump offered, whether spoken or not, to act as a mediator and not a "manager". I,e, he wishes to help each party develop its own solution to end the dispute.

Mediators are often successful when the parties to a dispute make seemingly harsh, opposite claims. The mediator helps each of the parties understand and deal with the realities of their respective position.

Of course, if one or all of the parties is irrational, as the good professor surmises, then there is not much a mediator can do.

But even with rational, thinking parties there is no basis for blaming a mediator who is qualified to serve as such, as Trump is in this instance, if the effort fails.

15 posted on 08/22/2025 8:40:13 AM PDT by frog in a pot
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22 posted on 08/22/2025 8:56:43 AM PDT by McGruff
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The USA needs to be completely uninvolved in this proxy war both $ and weapons. Not our monkeys - not our circus!
#MAGA


25 posted on 08/22/2025 9:04:10 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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Mearsheimer, is absolutely correct that President Trump is doing a brilliant job of systematically washing US hands of the war with Ukraine and handing responsibility of to the EU

The EU, the US proxy warriors and Zlenensky have bee working to engineer an international crisis in the Ukraine as funding for weapons supplies and financial support to Ukraine expire in the fall of 2025

The goal is to force President Trump to reopen the weapons and financial aid floodgates to Ukraine, force the US military to intervene directly in the fighting to keep the Russians from overrunning the country and to ultimately kill domestic political support for Trump so he loses the House in 2026 and is impeached by House Democrats in 2027.

It's a simple plan but it looks like Trump has flipped the script on the EU with a very sophisticated full spectrum counter to the European's scheme by committing to SELL the EU the weapons to supply to Ukraine and firmly putting himself into the Peace Broker and successfully casting himself as the only adult in the room when it comes to the war in Ukraine.

So now it's going to be on the EU to sort out the mess they have created in Ukraine by either picking up the 300 billion per year price tag to float the Ukraine war (which is not likely) or sort out the disaster when the Ukraine implodes (which is likely).

And when the war ends, thanks to the brilliant so called "Minerals Deal" President Trump hold right of first refusal over any rebuilding or economic development in Ukraine while committing the US to absolutely nothing

At the same time, Trump has executed a coordinated operation to defang and ultimately bring to justice his seditious (and potentially treasonous) war mongering domestic opposition that is conspiring to use the war in Ukraine to bring the Trump administration down .

The timing of the moves against the intelligence community, the FBI, the Clinton and Obama political machines, the Biden Administration, the Bolton raid and the moves against people like Adam Schiff are no coincidence.

At the same time, the Trump administration has been mobilizing and empowering law enforcement to get control of Washington and the rest of the Democrat rent a riot venues to block the Democrat's . plans for the professional left to ignite the BLM/ Antifa's Summer of Love II putsch

I'm cautiously optimistic that Trump is going to bring the Peace Agreement to reality and that the Ukraine is going to be the negotiating masterstroke that firmly enshrines Donald Trump as one of the great presidents of all time.

27 posted on 08/22/2025 9:15:05 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.)
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Haven’t we heard this several times before? Sigh.


28 posted on 08/22/2025 9:21:20 AM PDT by vpintheak (Screw the ChiComms! America first!)
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I think a reasonable peace deal document that allows Ukraine to retain what it still has of Donetsk should be prepared for Putin’s signature ASAP. This can be prepared by the Department of State and given to Zelensky for his review and approval.

The best way of finding out if Putin and Zelensky are going to be reasonable is to offer up such a document.

And yes, it has to be a signature ready document - “the devil is in the details.”

If Putin gets reasonable cause to believe that snatching the rest of Donetsk is a practical proposition, then it will be lost to Ukraine.

Time is of the essence.


32 posted on 08/22/2025 9:51:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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@POTUS on the war in Ukraine: “I’m not happy about anything about that war — nothing... I think over the next two weeks, we’re going to find out which way it’s going to go, and I better be very happy.”

1:37 PM · Aug 22, 2025


44 posted on 08/22/2025 10:46:41 AM PDT by McGruff
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The Russian part of Ukraine should belong to Russia.
The Ukrainian part of Ukraine should belong to Ukraine.
The Donbas is Russian.

49 posted on 08/22/2025 11:43:20 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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Let them destroy each other. It’s not this country’s concern. It’s the Euroweenies. No more unaccounted-for American taxpayer dollars or depletion of our own weapons inventory to support another proxy war with Russia. We’ve got our own wars going on here that need fighting. America First only!!


54 posted on 08/22/2025 12:10:05 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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