Posted on 08/12/2025 11:08:44 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
The upcoming one-on-one summit between Presidents Trump and Putin is unlikely to produce a lasting peace because Ukraine, the primary combatant, is not at the table. The bilateral format plays into Vladimir Putin’s imperial mindset, creating visuals of great-power parity and evoking historical comparisons to the disastrous Yalta and Munich conferences where smaller nations’ fates were decided for them.
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Putin then invaded the first time in 2014, after Yanukovych had weakened Ukraine's military even further.
Even then, Trump was the first to provide real military assistance after 2016.
The whole point of the Cold War was that Russia doesn't get a "sphere of influence" or a new empire in Eastern Europe. Four centuries of brutality and oppression are enough.
BBC [26 November 2021]
they see the Kremlin sending a message that it’s ready to defend its “red lines” on Ukraine: above all, that it must not join Nato.
“I think for Putin it’s really important. He thinks the West has begun giving Ukraine’s elite hope about joining Nato,” political analyst Tatiana Stanovaya at R.Politik told the BBC.
“The training, the weapons and so on are like a red rag to a bull for Putin and he thinks if he doesn’t act today, then tomorrow there will be Nato bases in Ukraine. He needs to put a stop to that.”
Ukraine’s desire to join the security bloc is nothing new, nor is Russia’s insistence on vetoing that ambition in what it sees as its own “back yard”.
But Moscow has been rattled recently by the Ukrainian military using Turkish drones against Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine; the flight near Crimea of two nuclear-capable US bombers was an extra irritant.
“At a meeting between Putin and Biden, neither will give clear commitments but there may be some tacit understanding on how far the US is ready to go in increasing its military support to Ukraine,” Mr Kortunov argues. “That’s not impossible.”
“Whilst Putin has a flicker of hope that he can do a deal with Biden, he won’t take any rash steps. But if he thinks it’s all doomed, he could do the worst things we can imagine,” Tatiana Stanovaya warns.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59415885
Then Zelensky needs to go on offense and take his land back.
“Trump will simply tell him that he has to accept what is negotiated with Putin. He will also tell Zelensky that there will be no more shipments of weapons for the war.”
No. The U.S. can tell Ukraine it will or it won’t do this or that, but it cannot tell Ukraine that it, the U.S., will all by itself, determine what Ukraine “must” accept. We have no legitimate right for that.
Zelensky would just run his mouth and nothing would get done.
“27 October 2021”
“The Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 combat drone has been deployed at Donbas by the Ukrainian Joint Forces Operation for the first time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces said in a statement. The drone targeted the positions of pro-Russian insurgents on October 26. The incident has been met with criticism from Moscow.”
“The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated that the unmanned aerial vehicle was used to attack a battery of howitzers that fired Ukrainian positions in Hranitne on the southern part of the line of contact. One Ukrainian soldier was killed and the other was wounded. Despite calls for a ceasefire from the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, “Russian-terrorist” forces did not stop the fire. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ordered the drone strike to “force the ceasefire.”
“The Ukrainian Joint Forces Operation said on October 26 that separatists made thirteen breaches to the ceasefire”
https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-uses-bayraktar-tb2-first-time-donbas/
Lindsay Graham is probably hating this.
Did it occur to you that the "Deep State" actors who stole the 2020 election are the same ones who have been pushing Ukraine into this war for years?
Actually, no.
The whole point of the Cold War was to diminish the influence of the Soviet Union in a multi-lateral world. Remember that the Warsaw Pact was established in response to West Germany's admission into NATO after the Soviet Union's request to join NATO was rejected.
“With tensions escalating along the border with Russia, Luke Harding visits troops in Ukraine’s Donbas region to gauge the mood ahead of a possible invasion. The war here has continued since 2014, when pro-Russian separatists seized Ukrainian cities.”
There’s a video I didn’t watch:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2021/dec/16/on-the-ukraine-frontline-only-the-dead-arent-afraid-video
I never thought I'd see the day when a sizable cohort of Freepers (of all people) would be on the same side as John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden on ANY issue.
Well Russia had its whole fleet sunk and was losing the ground war too, so there wasn’t much they could do, but sign.
You mean Luke Harding, a foreign correspondent for The Guardian?
LOL.
This place is full of Neocons and always has been.
“It’s not a “conspiratorial narrative” when the facts about what has transpired in Ukraine have been out in the open for years. “
The one-sided narratives and innuendos have been out there for years, always minus the Russian subversion side of things, like Putin’s assassination attempts, the Russian direct and indirect political subversion activities in Ukraine, and the Putin proxy war begun in the Donabas, again by subversion. Yea, some Freepers have plenty of “facts” minus those.
New York Times [Nov. 15, 2021]
How a Dispute Over Groceries Led to Artillery Strikes in Ukraine
Deployed for the first time in combat by Ukraine and provided by a country that is a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the drone hit a howitzer operated by the separatists. Things quickly escalated.
Across the border, Russia scrambled jets. The next day, Russian tanks mounted on rail cars rumbled toward the Ukrainian border.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin.html
:-)
It’s not a “conspiratorial narrative” when the facts about what has transpired in Ukraine have been out in the open for years.
I never thought I’d see the day when a sizable cohort of Freepers (of all people) would be on the same side as John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden on ANY issue.
Which “facts” are those? The 2014 “facts” where the Moscow Kremlin claimed it was a Civil War in Ukraine? Or the later “facts” when Putin himself admitted that it was the Russian Army who had invaded Ukraine and personally handed them medals? Facts and truth are irrelevent to Kremlin Bolsheviks. Their revolution is always the issue and the gaslighting “truth” conforms to that.
I’d never thought see the day when sizable cohort of American conservatives would be so historically ignorant, and frankly, illiterate, as to find common cause with a genocidal mass murderer like Putin. I always knew Democrats were morons. I never suspected the same for many “conservatives”. We always were better than Marxist Democrats. Apparently, no more.
Moscow Times [10/27/2021]
The neighboring separatist-held Luhansk People’s Republic accused Kiev of using the Bayraktar in violation of ceasefire agreements that ban the deployment of foreign drones on the front line.
The Kremlin said Wednesday that Turkey’s supply of drones to Ukraine risks destabilizing the eastern Ukraine conflict
The Ukrainian army has been locked in a long-running conflict with separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014 after Moscow annexed the peninsula of Crimea from Kiev. The conflict has claimed more than 13,000 lives.
Ukraine and its Western allies accuse Russia of sending troops and arms to support the separatists, which Moscow denies.
Quotes:
In anticipation of a broader collapse in Donbas, Ukraine has constructed a massive new line of fortifications across the rear areas of Donetsk Oblast....more than 350 km
Fortifications are built into forests and groves to avoid detection.
Small, decentralized strongpoints replace long, linear trenches to limit the damage from concentrated drone strikes.
much more at:
https://www.ryanjhite.com/2025/08/03/the-new-donbas-line-can-ukraine-stop-russias-advance/
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