Posted on 01/30/2025 2:02:18 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
Fox News obtained exclusive information regarding the crew members aboard the Army helicopter at the time of the accident. The instructor pilot commanding the Black Hawk boasted 1,000 flying hours.
Meanwhile, his co-pilot was a woman with 500 flying hours, considered to be a standard level of experience in aviation circles.
The revelation that the co-pilot was a woman has reignited ongoing debates about gender roles within military operations.
Fox News reported:
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Shocking, innit? Everybody knows wimmins can't fly ...
The flight pattern after the fork in the Potomac river was very erratic. Some of the more recent ones especially.
My dad was due for his annual PC (proficiency check), which always caused him great stress. I remember him sitting in his chair for weeks beforehand, studying his flight manuals. This particular time, when he got to the facility, his co-pilot had called in sick, so they assigned a reserve FO to fly with him. This FO was a female and this was not her PC, she was just a stand-in.
My dad said she was terrible. The worst he’d ever flown with. She was so bad that the check pilot pulled her aside and said, “I know this isn’t your PC, but I can still pull you offline if you don’t get it together.” That night, she knocked on my dad’s hotel room in a panic, asking him to go over study material/checklists, etc. and stayed until he finally had to kick her out so he could go to bed. They made it through the PC and they both passed.
Fast forward about a month and my dad was taking off from (redacted) airport. As they were climbing, they saw a huge flock of Canadian Geese on a field near the runway. They radioed a warning to ATC about the birds, and heard ATC issue a warning to a plane nearby. Then they proceeded on to their destination. I cannot recall if they heard this information while in flight or after they landed, but they learned that another plane had crashed at the same airport they had departed about 20 minutes after they had taken off. When he learned the pilots’ names, he realized it was the same female FO at his PC!
At the time, he had just assumed it was a bird strike, but I looked up the NTSB report and learned it was not and that they never determined the cause of the crash that killed everybody onboard. She was not flying the plane at the time. I don’t mean to imply she was the cause, but just a strange coincidence.
Amelia Earhardt was unavailable for comment.
Yeah...a leftist who spent 25 years flying in the military, including combat time! Have YOU flown in combat? Been at FR a pretty long time too. Longer than you.
The response to someone you disagree with is a REASON, not name-calling.
1000 hours isn’t even enough to get on with an airline, and 500 is basically little more than a basic training.
I am shocked no one in charge had more time than these two.
500 hours is not trivial.
But it’s certainly not seasoned.
They were in some of the busiest airspace in the country.
Seasoned would have been appropriate.
A mans voice was on the radio, which implies the woman co-pilot was most likely flying, with him working the radio.
I watched a video of the ATC radar and radio coms. The ATC is in command. That persons job is to keep the aircraft moving and not collide. There was no weather issue. The airline was following instructions. The ATC was giving specific instructions to all aircraft, except PAT25 (Army helicopter) instead asking a question, didn’t get an answer, didn’t order either PAT25 or the airline to change course/altitude.
The ATC is ultimately in charge and it is their fault. It seems the helicopter was also at fault as they didn’t follow instructions, didn’t acknowledge instructions. The questions I have would be Why? Why did the ATC controller fail at their job and Why did the helicopter pilot not respond and not follow instructions.
What are they talking about? Unless it was the far Left talking heads on the usual whining networks, I've not heard anything about "debate about gender roles" in regards to this accident.
Flying is not a manly thing. It's a procedural thing, using critical thinking and past training for the situation.
I am guessing the person who posted that meant commercial in the sense of working for a commercial airline. Not the basic commercial license you are referring to.
Looks like she backed it into some bullets trying to parallel park ;-)
Not all pilots, male or female, are as good as you are, SkyDancer, but people should learn more about individuals before they jump to conclusions.
What happens when you are wearing night vision goggles and someone shines a bright flashlight directly at you ?
Just guessing but all their men were probably busy facing the Germans on the front line.
What happens if you are flying a plane or helo wearing night vision goggles and suddenly have a bright light aimed directly into your line of sight ?
This is a sort of universal pattern that I've noticed, and that I've seen others notice as well. A person with little experience or knowledge knows they are ignorant and is accordingly very careful and humble about it. And a person who has truly mastered a subject is competent, and knows not only what they know but also what they don't know, and are candid about it.
It's the people in the middle who are trouble. They start to get familiar with something, or learn a little, and too quickly relax and think they are experts when they are not. You can see examples in everything from gun safety/handling to looking at the confidence exuded by fanatics on a topic (such as climate change), where the real experts even on their own side are much more circumspect.
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