Posted on 01/25/2025 5:40:43 AM PST by DFG
A California ballot initiative proposing that the state become its own country and secede from the United States has been filed and cleared for signature gathering.
If the measure makes it onto the November 2028 ballot, it would ask voters: “Should California leave the United States and become a free and independent country?” local news outlet KCRA3 reported on Friday.
The guidelines would require 50 percent of registered voters to participate and a “yes” vote from 55 percent of voters, which would indicate “a vote of no confidence in the United States of America,” according to the report. The measure would further show that the “will of the people of California” is to become a country.
“According to the initiative’s language, it would not change California’s current government or relationship with the U.S. However, it would create a commission to report on California’s viability as an independent country,” the report states. “The initiative estimates one-time election-related costs, and forming a commission on national sovereignty and independence would cost $10 million. It estimates that operating the commission would take another $2 million in annual state costs.”
The circulation deadline is July 22, and the initiative requires 546,651 valid signatures.
“Legally seceding the country would require a constitutional amendment, which would require the approval of Congress and 38 states,” the report notes.
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California should not be able to secede until all of it’s
debts are paid. Period.
Mental masturbation. No chance of approval from other states, or the foreseable makeup of Congress.
China would turn San Francisco and Los Angeles into squeaky clean cities.
The homeless and Antifa would mysteriously disappear in a matter of days.
Perhaps we can lease those cities to China for a year.
China would turn San Francisco and Los Angeles into squeaky clean cities.
The homeless and Antifa would mysteriously disappear in a matter of days.
Perhaps we can lease those cities to China for a year.
China would leapfrog Taiwan and take California without a shot....and wemight let them as long as they keep the crazies
There’s the door. Bye!
The country was doing so well for a few days. We aren’t going to annex Canada or Greenland or take back the Panama Canal, but it was good that we were talking about expanding the country after an election, rather than tearing it apart.
California’s not going to secede. The global free market idea had people thinking that cities could go it alone like Singapore, but countries are tightening up global trade with tariffs. China’s giving California competition and the Golden State is going to need the US market.
Plus, Californians can’t count on their leaders to be as tough, competent, and effective as Singapore’s. It’s also a state with great inequality and poverty and an increasingly uneducated and ill-educated workforce, and that’s bound to cause California trouble in the future, especially if they keep their Southern border open.
Good luck attracting new business to the state.
Really think other states want to keep Commiefornia?
Hell, no.
Texas will send them a gift basket for leaving,
We have ZFG for that moronically run cesspool. Nor are we impressed with the Cali chest beaters with how important California is. We can adapt and overcome the loss. Especially if the Canal is back to full operations.
As for the Chinese, the senators and congress critters from there sell our information to he Chicoms already. Now they would have to work harder.
Great idea.
Willing to let go the coastal strip, so long as the interior counties have a port, whether north at Fort Bragg or south at San Diego. Most all of the interior counties of California are commonsense folks. I don’t care if we have common sense democrats or common sense republicans, just people that have common sense and don’t hate their country or themselves.
It used to be that republicans and democrats oth agreed that a problem needed fixin’—just a disagreement on how to go about it Fair enough—now we can’t even agree on what the problems are. The survival and rights of trans gender wombats is not a real problem....
Great, and don’t slam the door on your way out.
Visa’s required to go from California to any state in the union, by any means. California border with Nevada, Oregon and Arizona closed. Colorado River waters meant for California now will be required to bend to new international agreement with the U.S. Tariffs on all U.S. imports from California. The U.S. claiming full rights to all islands off the coast of California. San Diego U.S. Naval facilities moved to new deep port facilities on Catalina Island. The U.S. to annex Baja California from Mexico, by force. Ect., Ect., Ect. Go ahead California, make our day.
Exactly. Far too few people understand that. If California were allowed to leave the Union, the Chinese Navy would take over San Diego within a week.
CHINA is probably FUNDING this ballot effort, propaganda and all. Bet on it.
So long as we get to keep Coronado, Monterey, and Carmel by the Sea, I’m all for it.
Good, they can rebel, We can conquer it and re-construct the crap out of it
“They can then deal with their owned ash heaps”
CA pays $120 billion per year more in Fed Taxes than it receives in Fed expenditures.
CA is the 4th largest economy in the world.
CA is the origin point of most technological innovation, both in computers/networking/AI AND DEFENSE.
If the US allows them to split, it will diminish the country substantially.
But many ignorant people just don’t care.
I’m fine with California becoming independent as long as San Diego and other bases in California remain federal territory.
Didn’t we settle this 160 years ago?
“Withhold all Fed funds to California until this is resolved. You want to go it alone, lets see if you can.”
CA pays $120bil per year MORE in Fed taxes than it receives in Fed expenditures.
CA can survive JUST FINE, and likely flourish as it’s own country. But the US would be significantly diminished.
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