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Read until the very end...Vivek Ramaswamy slammed for suggesting American culture is bad and can’t produce top talent
X | RS ^ | December 26, 2024 | Mark Levin

Posted on 12/28/2024 6:39:57 PM PST by conservative98

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To: ocrp1982

Tech bros: “There’s a shortage of talent. We need more workers! More H-1Bs!”

Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley: “My perfect GPA students are contacting me worried because they are getting zero job offers.” pic.twitter.com/iF7iKXPppk— U.S. Tech Workers (@USTechWorkers) December 27, 2024


41 posted on 12/28/2024 7:12:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DesertRhino

Thread, won.


42 posted on 12/28/2024 7:13:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: conservative98

He’s right about our rotten culture and its educational system; but the remedy is to change it for the better, not to surrender to it and replace it with foreign workers.


43 posted on 12/28/2024 7:13:19 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: sauropod

Engineers are different. You can’t teach somebody to be an engineer. That’s something your born with. Not everybody can stop a nuclear meltdown with chocolate and duct tape.


44 posted on 12/28/2024 7:13:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Owen

Tech bros: “There’s a shortage of talent. We need more workers! More H-1Bs!”

Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley: “My perfect GPA students are contacting me worried because they are getting zero job offers.” pic.twitter.com/iF7iKXPppk— U.S. Tech Workers (@USTechWorkers) December 27, 2024


45 posted on 12/28/2024 7:14:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Owen

No they don’t.

Indian IQ is 87 range.

Troll.


46 posted on 12/28/2024 7:14:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nwrep

Tech bros: “There’s a shortage of talent. We need more workers! More H-1Bs!”

Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley: “My perfect GPA students are contacting me worried because they are getting zero job offers.” pic.twitter.com/iF7iKXPppk— U.S. Tech Workers (@USTechWorkers) December 27, 2024


47 posted on 12/28/2024 7:15:12 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kosciusko51
If there is that great of a shortage, why isn’t every US citizen with a STEM degree not employed in their field? I can think of two.

The unemployment rate for US citizens with engineering degrees is about 2%.

48 posted on 12/28/2024 7:15:13 PM PST by nwrep
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To: conservative98
The problem is generalizing. America has a whole is "eh" in regards to talent. Thing is, if you drop one particular demographic from the whole, America holds up pretty well compared to the rest of the world.

Because the USA is so big, there are in sheer numbers, a lot of very talented home grown people available for hire. On a percentage basis, it is not so big.

And smart people aren't stupid, LOL. If you are an A- type male from rural Kansas, why would you go to engineering school nowadays anyway? You have to compete against foreign talent and weave your way through feminized HR departments. There is more money to be made elsewhere with that kind of brain power. Get into finance. Go be a RN. Or get into the trades and run your own business.

49 posted on 12/28/2024 7:15:17 PM PST by Pappy Smear
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To: CodeToad

How can low quality & low IQ H1-B workers replace high quality American workers, and the corporation is still in business?

Either the jobs did not require high IQ workers or the H1-B workers are smart enough to carry on company needs.


50 posted on 12/28/2024 7:15:21 PM PST by Bobbyvotes (Congrats to Trump/Vance tea.m. America has been saved. For a while at least. )
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To: teevolt

Vivek is talking about white people and their culture the way white people routinely talk about black people and their culture.

Why can’t y’all be more like the Asians? 😉


51 posted on 12/28/2024 7:15:55 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: kosciusko51
There are still excellent engineers graduating from US colleges and universities.

Yes; what percentage of these engineers are native born American citizens ?

According to a 2021 National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) study, 50–82% of full-time graduate students in key technical fields at US universities are international students. For example, 74% of full-time graduate students in electrical engineering are international students, and 82% in petroleum engineering.
52 posted on 12/28/2024 7:16:09 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: teevolt

“Vivek getting curb stomped by Nikki, LOL. I know Nikki doesn’t mean it,”

They are different castes. He was a Brahmin, and she was a Sihk I think.

And the way Indians bring that old world crap here is something else I don’t like. This last election we had Nimrata Haley, Ramaswami, and Harris. Time to wake up, America has an third world immigration problem. If we don’t stop it hard, we will look like England in less than a decade.


53 posted on 12/28/2024 7:16:31 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: Jonty30
99% of jobs could be learned on the job and that is not allowed in most industries.

I'd argue that 100% of the jobs that you referred to are already well-established and yes, people can learn them on the job.

The problem is who is going to think up the next generation of jobs of the future that has no installed basis to slot "the average person" into?

If our elite universities like Harvard had to fire their presidents for faking their credentials, then what can we realistically expect of the students who graduated from such schools?

-PJ

54 posted on 12/28/2024 7:18:02 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Jonty30
Engineers are different. You can’t teach somebody to be an engineer. That’s something your born with.

Like Ralph Earnhardt said to Dale:

"They can't put it in you and they can't take it out."

55 posted on 12/28/2024 7:18:05 PM PST by Hamiltonian
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To: nwrep

What’s your source for those numbers?


56 posted on 12/28/2024 7:18:20 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: ocrp1982
I have to agree with Vivek. What he says is demonstrably true. We DO NOT emphasize academic achievement in our country.

I respect that you take a contrary view on these pages. It's healthy for debate.

In some superficial ways, Vivek is correct. SOCIALISM and materialism, and the appalling lack of opportunity and desperation it creates in Chinese and Indian societies funnels a lot of people into STEM. There are intelligent people available for what Americans consider slave wages.

But MAGA is supposed to PROTECT average Americans, and their lifestyle. We must NOT agree to be sold out to the lowest globalist bidder.

Moreover, its proven that H1B program is just another grift, where a few cronies and insiders organizing it make huge amounts of money.

IF There is a problem with Americans education or expectations, then blame our bloated, debt-fed education and welfare system. FIX THAT FIRST, before stabbing American workers in the back in the name of economic efficiency.

57 posted on 12/28/2024 7:19:00 PM PST by PGR88
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To: kosciusko51

They are on student visas. That’s not immigrant. That’s student. The Indian and Chinese students outscore caucasian.

The Bell Curve.


58 posted on 12/28/2024 7:19:01 PM PST by Owen
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To: Jonty30

“The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low,” Musk wrote
I graduated many years ago obtaining a Ph.D. in engineering from the #1 engineering school in the the US. I am a legal immigrant coming as an adult. My efforts in Silicon Valley span 36 years, and those efforts have created about 5500 jobs worldwide, the vast majority of which are in the US, most paying north of $130k annually. I have also hired many dozens of engineers, a handful of them being H1Bs. My experience is that engineers come in all levels of talent, from all the larger cultures (American, Japanese, Indian, Chinese, European). The main differentiating factor is how much their spouses will allow the engineer to work, including weekends. In my experience, American engineers, once married to an American woman, have to take care of home chores much more than American engineers married to a foreign born Asian woman. I have often seen married Indian and Chinese engineers slamming the phone down, or ignoring texts from their spouse if they stay past 9 PM. It takes a certain amount of craziness to push past the limits, Elon does it, I have done it, many American engineers have done it, but it requires a cooperating spouse.


59 posted on 12/28/2024 7:19:11 PM PST by TruthBringsFreedom
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To: Jonty30

“India becomes the biggest source country for doctors in the US”


60 posted on 12/28/2024 7:20:11 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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