Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie
Six months ago, I was asked my opinion of the Silicon Valley alignment with MAGA. I said at the time I thought it would last around 18 months and finally climax with a large fracture in the political movement around 2026. I had no idea at the time, the group of technocrats would begin publicly advocating for replacing American workers before Trump took office.
For the past several days I have watched Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks, Elon Musk and his big tech influencers debating with their followers about the importance for them to continue expanding H-1b visas for foreign tech workers. It is stunning to see this crew double, triple and quadruple down on advocacy, while defining American workers as inadequate for their Silicon Valley needs.
Alas, it is what it is. Within the argument Musk, Ramaswamy, Sacks and group have presented multiple justifications for their foreign worker assistance programs, while advocating for expanded immigration support therein.
Within the tone of their argument, they essentially say the American worker is (1) not intellectual enough; (2) doesn’t have the right work ethic; and the latest point of justification is that (3) American culture is to blame for their need to import foreign workers.
As Vivek Ramaswamy recently said, “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.” Thus, as the narrative is sold, American workers need to be replaced with more culturally appropriate Indian tech workers.
When the Indian-American starts saying Indian culture is more adequate at creating workers for the American tech industry, he loses me completely.
If the Indian culture is the holy grail breeding ground for software engineers, then why isn’t New Delhi replacing Silicon Valley?
Considering that factually the Indian culture is entirely based on a caste system, the argument is even more absurd.
What we need are training and recruitment centers for American students. However, the larger issue within the billionaire tech team advocacy is an issue of self-interest.
What we see in the justifications and arguments of the Ramaswamy, Musk and Sacks group is a very specific point of immigration policy for their subset within a singular sector of the American economy. Perhaps this would not be such a big issue, if these points of advocacy were coming from outside government interest groups. However, with this tech team going into the administration, the influence becomes something a little bigger.
The part the Tech Group do not understand is the core of the American DNA, “Liberty“…
It is only from the position of liberty, intellectualism actualized in freedom form, that the working culture of America, the ingenuity part, can be understood.
If you attempt to quantify Americanism with math and algorithms, the translated outcome always fails.
Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…
Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.
However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.
Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”
You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”
A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.
We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.
A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.
Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.
Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.
Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.
In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.
Warmest regards,
Americans First!
My BEST advice to @elonmusk @VivekGRamaswamy @DavidSacks and the Silicon Valley tech elites, is to keep talking. Just keep telling Americans how terrible they are and how they need to be replaced. Great Job.
Every time you guys open your typeset in public, @LauraLoomer grows a…
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 26, 2024
You trash corporate executives and call everyone here trolls. You are just a grumpy old geezer who draws your union pension and social security. You aren’t here for discussion. Your only goal is to argue, as you try to make everyone as miserable as yourself.
>>”On the other hand, exactly what does Vivek Ramaswamy bring to the table, other than being a slick talker?”
He brings plenty of hype and plenty of ego. But beyond that, I can’t find a thing.
Did you read my post, idiot. I asked AI. And stop stalking me.
The guy is a total jerk. I wish FR had a mute or a block button so I wouldn’t have to see his posts.
#PresidentMusk is certainly going full-court press on this stuff. And, there is only one man who sits at the pinnacle of matters and can set things right and bring an end to this tension. However, he seems to me to be all things to all people (case in point, embracing LGBT in 2016 with a rainbow flag and Mrs. Melania fundraising in Mar-a-Lago for that cause, choosing outright gays to high national security positions, and at the same time, contradictorily having rousing rallies at conservative, social values, Christian nationalist mega-churches in Arizona which would be polar opposites of this movement.)
(Trump will find out very soon one cannot be all things to all people.)
every generation of workers is forced at some point to train their replacements.
The issue now is that there are not enough properly trained and educated American citizens with the proper work ethic to work the vast number of jobs needed in tech. So until we make major changes to our schools, we will need to bring in top talent from around the world to fill those needed jobs and in the process make America greater than it has ever been before. As Trump has said, we WANT emmergants, we just want them to enter legally and we want the best of the best and not the mentally ill or criminals.
1. USB. Yes, the ubiquitous USB without which modern life wouldn’t continue — Ajay Bhatt.
2. Fiber Optics (no modern high speed internet without fiber optics) - Narinder Singh Kapany
You speak as if these two individuals were single handedly responsible for the technologies mentioned. In the case of the USB, that resulted from a group development effort led by a consortium of seven tech companies (Compaq, DEC, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC, and Nortel) to develop a universal standard for device connectivity. Ajay Bhatt was the team leader at Intel that developed the first integrated circuits to support USB. Hardly a lone genius.
Same with Narinder Singh Kapany. He didn’t single handedly invent fiber optics. Much of the basic physics had already been developed. Kapany and British physicist Harold Hopkins improved on the technology in 1953, producing what were the best quality transmissions achieved up until that time. But the development of fiver optics took place over decades and resulted from incremental improvements by a number of physicists and engineers.
But that’s expensive. How do you expect them to maximize profits by doing that?
Guess what?
I am not going away after 21 years here.
And I won’t be silenced.
And I won’t be taken off of this platform by you or anyone, save the powers that be.
So you are just going to have to deal with it, snowflake.
Your replies are just so boring.
I can truly understand why Jim would allow your continued presence.
Truly.
It's quite fashionable to say "Americans are lazy and entitled" and to compare today's worker with yesteryear.
But nobody ever compares the executive greed and entitlement with yesteryear.
I call people trolls when they deserve it:
the US built the atom bomb and went to the moon without offshoring to thd Third World or importing them. Those immigrants who did come here (and are used as the excuse for importing H1-Bs en masse) were once-in-a-generation physicists like Einstein and Fermi.
The Snowflakes are spoiled and entitled...but all the prior generation of American workers, were not: but they were still summarily tossed out the door to savd geeedy executives a few bucks so they could get large bonuses.
The cost savings were not shared with the customer, and the executives tried to gaslight the public about the loss of quality, and the social costs borne by the community as a whole.
I am anti-Union and am still working. No pension, either: that was robbed from me by executives unilaterally forcing workers onto 401(k)s while lying that it was better for the workers.
Elon Musk is the richest man in yhe history of humanity.
It is appalling that he attempts to argue that he *has to* tip the wage scale in the US in his own favor, or he won't be able to succeed in business.
(I've written the same thing decades ago about Microsoft and their $52 billion special dividend. They could have invested it in T-bills and used the interest alone to fund US programmers without touching or risking the principal, and without affecting cash flow from continuing operations which had generated that pile of cash.)
Do they have the right to spend their money how they want? Yes.
Do they have a business need, or the moral right to force myriad social problems on the country which gives the a peaceful market, more or less equitable rule of law, existing infrastructure, allows them freedom to run a business without bribery/govt. extortion, etc.? No.
You’re a liar.
The “replacements” were brought in a generation ago, when there was no shortage: and US citizens were discourged implicitly and explicitly, from working in tech.
Now that there is a shortage, that shortage us used as the excuse for doubling down on the error that caused the problem.
He's the President of the United States. I would expect him to do that.
If I brought a smile to somebody’s face no matter in which manner it was achieved then I’ve done part of my duty as a Christian for the day… Hope you have a nice weekend
Yes but it’s eventually going to catch up with him
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