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Why have so many public schools stopped teaching phonics?
Wordpress ^ | December 22, 2024 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 12/22/2024 9:18:06 AM PST by grundle

Business Insider just published the following:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/daughter-repeated-kindergarten-because-she-101201351.html

My daughter repeated kindergarten because she couldn’t read. I ended up sending both my kids to private school because I don’t trust the public system.

By Jane Ridley

December 22, 2024

Susie Coughlin was concerned when her daughter struggled with reading skills at her public school.

The mom of two was disappointed her district didn’t teach phonics as part of its literacy program.

She switched her child to a Catholic school where the girl thrived after being taught phonics.

Why have so many public schools stopped teaching phonics?


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To: grundle

Independent readers become independent thinkers.

Can’t have that.


41 posted on 12/22/2024 10:08:40 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: cuz1961

How about spelling and grammar?


42 posted on 12/22/2024 10:13:49 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: grundle

In 1999my daughter was diagnosed with a special ed need. She was unable to process words using the “sight” method.

They set up a special program to go to a special class. They started teaching her phonics.

It was crazy. It cost our town thousands of dollars from their special ed budget.


43 posted on 12/22/2024 10:17:45 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: grundle
Why have so many public schools stopped teaching phonics?

Because Teachers' College is still stuck on John Dewey. His Lincoln School taught John D. Rockefeller's sons and turned four out of five into dyslexics.

44 posted on 12/22/2024 10:18:41 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Everyone here reads books to their kids, right?

I try, but he figits and whines so much and doesn't pay attention.
Keeps wanting to get home to his wife and kids.

45 posted on 12/22/2024 10:20:42 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: grundle

Score low on the teachers exam and get placed into lower grades; meaning, the dumbest, who are often illiterate themselves, teach reading.


46 posted on 12/22/2024 10:22:08 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: grundle

Because they don’t want the students to read better than the teachers.


47 posted on 12/22/2024 10:22:28 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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Studying Russian in college illustrated the importance of phonics. In Cyrillic, almost every new word is roughed out by a phonic translation of every syllable. We don’t notice it in English as much because we’re not fighting another alphabet as we are with
Cyrillic.

This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.

My brother begrudgingly taught me a few words from a handwritten letter or something when I was 4 or 5. I don’t think it’s a false memory, but I remember using this ‘code’ to break more words into my reading vocabulary, and with the help of a big nature book was reading fine well before school. Interestingly, I still mispronounce words in my head the same way when first learned. For instance, the ‘lbs’ on a big cereal box was ‘ibs’ in my head. Still is.


48 posted on 12/22/2024 10:22:37 AM PST by F450-V10
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To: lee martell
KnowwhatI’msayin’?

They don't need to teach phonics if you ax me.

49 posted on 12/22/2024 10:24:10 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: grundle

They don’t teach it because it’s the easiest and beast way to teach reading. It stays with you your whole life and as a result reading is a joy.


50 posted on 12/22/2024 10:32:09 AM PST by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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To: F450-V10

This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.


And that is exactly right. learning to read is complex. Both are useful.

But our small minds can’t handle complex systems. We want to think one or the other. Life is simpler that way.

Coke is better than Pepsi.
Ford is better than Chevy. Republicans are better than democrats. we don’t have to think anymore.


51 posted on 12/22/2024 10:35:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: grundle

The only solid way to learn to sound out words & read.


52 posted on 12/22/2024 10:36:54 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: BlueLancer

Oh, yeah. I remember that from fifth and sixth grades.


53 posted on 12/22/2024 10:42:45 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: F450-V10

“Russian”

Vowels, most radically the “O”, can have different sounds in Russian.

Phonics is the initial learning method for reading.

Spanish is fully phonetic - each letter has only one sound.

English and Russian are not.

“This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.”

Yes, that’s what’s needed to learn Russian (and English).

Most children don’t need to be taught phonics by public schools. However, probably about a third do, and it should be done in kindergarten (or pre-school).


54 posted on 12/22/2024 10:43:30 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: BlueLancer

1st grade for me.
Quickly moved into the 2nd grade SRA series


55 posted on 12/22/2024 10:44:32 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting here you're aiming!))
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To: Fai Mao
In the computer age cursive is not that important.

I know several people who work extensively with a tablet and a stylus. The software converts their handwriting to text.

I also work with technical professionals who mark up engineering diagrams. The markups have to be handwritten to valid changes to scope as well as determine liability. The project managers and the audit teams can go back through each revision and confirm exactly what was identified at what stage of the project.

56 posted on 12/22/2024 10:50:03 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: ClearCase_guy

“ I seriously believe that the reason they don’t teach phonics is because phonics works. They don’t want a society of readers. People might actually have ideas. This is all about control.”

And that’s why by the dept of education must be shut down.


57 posted on 12/22/2024 10:51:02 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Drill Baby Drill!)
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To: grundle

Hopefully, phonics will come back under Trump!

And Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, etc. will go back to reading whole books, even if one does not major in “History and Literature”!


58 posted on 12/22/2024 10:55:37 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: grundle

Because Ebonics?


59 posted on 12/22/2024 10:57:56 AM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: grundle

A better question would be why have so many public schools stopped TEACHING?


60 posted on 12/22/2024 11:02:09 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Never forget, the Marxist-Democrats & RINOs who would destroy our country ARE STILL HERE!)
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