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Luigi Mangione FULL Manifesto JUST OUT | UnitedHealthcare CEO Killing
100 Percent Fed Up ^ | December 10, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 12/10/2024 5:37:20 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Why doesn’t barbarian Bragg just let the lefty, ‘Rat go?


41 posted on 12/10/2024 7:10:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Brainwashing by the Three Pillars (Academia, Media, and DNC}


42 posted on 12/10/2024 7:15:55 PM PST by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Yep, 1 2 punch of anti-inflammatory and pain reliver.


43 posted on 12/10/2024 7:23:36 PM PST by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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To: Red Badger

well, that was a mouthful! Re his mom’s neuropathy: diabetes, hypothyrodism, result of a fall/accident, or congenital? Was the surfing wipeout the cause of his dislocated/misaligned vertebrae or also congenital? From the rundown sounds like the doctors took the same steps with mom as the Mayo Clinic would take:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/peripheral-neuropathy/care-at-mayo-clinic/mac-20352071 From another article the son had an almost one inch dislocation of the spine and the plate realligned that. If that was caused by the surfing accident, he’s lucky his spinal cord wasn’t severed.

But his ‘avenging his mom’ story doesn’t fly. It’s like he’s transferring blame for his actions.

Most of the time insurers are following either medicare or medicaid rules set by those agencies. And there’s the reality that medical science doesn’t have all the answers to every ailment. I can’t speak to commercial insurance, but as a senior, my experience with Anthem has been pretty positive.

Anthem is my Advantage plan people. Similar to other insurers, in between me and Anthem is a middle-man processor, who loves to deny claims based on Medicare rules, which they consider are written in stone. When that happens, I file a formal written grievance with Anthem Corporate and have my doctor do the same. Anthem consistently overrides that middleman and approves the claim (3x in the past two years).

Had I accepted the processor’s denial as the last word, I’d be SOL and out tens of thousands in medical debt. For example, under straight medicare, with $100K hospital bill, I paid about $9K out of pocket for md’s, imaging, hospital stay, etc. Next year, under Anthem, another $100K bill and I paid $125 for a non-admission ER visit. $125. My medications hit a donut hole in May of every year so I switch to ordering from Canada not to happy about that but bearable. Not to say Anthem does everything right for everyone, but they’ve done ok by me so far.


44 posted on 12/10/2024 7:31:03 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Red Badger

later


45 posted on 12/10/2024 8:35:09 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Jonty30

In all this discussion (here on FR and many other platforms) I see little addressing the fact that the CEO’s pay is so insignificant compared to the income of large companies that even if you could get capable executives to run, say, UHC, for $200k a year, the difference in salary & benefits, plowed back into claims payments, would be utterly inconsequential.

Obviously any exec capable of running one of these big companies isn’t going to work for 6 figures anyway. Supply and demand...

The other thing that is bandied about is “huge” / “obscene” / “evil” (etc.) profits. But I have yet to see anyone post what the actual PERCENTAGE profits for UHC have been over the last 10 years. What is “fair”? Who determines that? If profits are low, will that deter innovation?

This kid’s family lives on a golf course and can pony up money for guards, but the Mom couldn’t get a loan for a specialized test?


46 posted on 12/11/2024 2:57:56 AM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Paul R.

Years ago during a severe downturn that cut the funding to a hospital. I knew the two men that ran it. CEO and CFO.

The navigated and were creative during the downturn.

Not one job was lost.

The hospital came out stronger than ever.

They each earned e every penny of their high 6 figures (amazing salaries at that time and place)

It gave me a new appreciation of what it meant to hold every single one of hundreds of jobs in one’s hands and be responsible for the paychecks.

Me? Never more than 6 jobs


47 posted on 12/11/2024 3:18:33 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Veto!
If I go through x-ray photos at an airport, they’ll see it and would definitely want me to tell them why.

A friend of mine has a metal pin in one of her legs. She takes an xray image with her to the airport, since she flies frequently. The NSA goon can tell if the xray image matches what they are seeing on NSA screen.

48 posted on 12/11/2024 8:33:54 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

This is essentially a rant AGAINST liberals.
Health care destroyed by the left, first with OBAMACARE, THEN adding MILLIONS of illegals into our health care system.


They want to destroy it, so that people will demand Single Payer.


49 posted on 12/11/2024 8:35:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
They want to destroy it, so that people will demand Single Payer.

That's been the end game ALL ALONG.

50 posted on 12/11/2024 8:36:39 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Yep, been saying it for years. That’s why they didn’t have to read what was in it.


51 posted on 12/11/2024 8:37:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Yep, been saying it for years. That’s why they didn’t have to read what was in it.

Remember Hillary's healthcare task force, she wanted it all in one bite. Got greedy. They are best at incremental destruction.

52 posted on 12/11/2024 8:40:11 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Brian Griffin; montag813; Jonty30; Manic_Episode; frank ballenger; CivilWarBrewing; dragnet2; ...
US health care is about twice as much per person as it is in advanced Western European countries.

It's because the US has, at least in the recent past, been the leader in drug development. The costs of that development are largely borne by American citizens as they utilize our healthcare systems. Eventually, the U.S. patent on a new drug runs out and a generic version is allowed to be marketed; meanwhile, other breakthrough drugs have been introduced into the development pipeline, keeping costs high.

It's also a truism that once a large pipeline has been developed, more and more entities will enter it. It becomes a game, where pharma companies compete to put more and more profitable items into the pipeline and sideline low-cost entities that are about to run out of patent or are already duplicated in generic form. Part of the game is to search for a profitable disease, rather than respond to an actual uptick in general healthcare needs.

With large profits, BigPharma can build out more elaborate corporate headquarters and laboratories, hold more international conferences, issue more publications and advertising, and fund more salaries, bonuses, employee perks, “good works in the community” and stock dividends. Hence Fauci's manufacture of a highly communicable disease, the “treatment” for it, and lobbyists ready to beg for government protections against lawsuits -- one tight package! It's the culmination of his life's work of promoting the profitability of the pharma industry rather than solving health and cost-of-care problems for patients.

53 posted on 12/11/2024 9:00:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Read a similar perspective on X that partially discredits the “twice as expensive to Europe” claim.


54 posted on 12/11/2024 9:12:12 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Brian Griffin
His answer to use violence to change the healthcare system is his immaturity and lack of discipline to work within a political system..a very childish personality.

This is the tragedy. He had the grooming and education to have found a position under RFKjr's new regime and could have made an incremental difference in the short run, creating for himself a lifetime path for health system improvements.

Unfortunately, he chose BigAcademia's indoctrination into immediate revolutionary action, ultimately a fool's choice. Today's educated youth are taught to hate America and nothing will do but violent overthrow.

As to the immaturity, many big Italian families cultivate smother mothering, as do many Jewish families; his descriptions of apparently being alone in the home with her responses to pain and seeming helplessness about fighting the healthcare system sounded like the difficulty sons of single mothers encounter when they are thrust into the "only male in the home" position, whether the mother overtly declared "you're the man of the house now" or not.

It sounds unkind; but much of the mother's neurological pain may have been compounded by the psychic pain of what sounds like divorce and abandonment. He describes their throwing themselves repeatedly on the hard ground of indifference and rejection by allopathic medicine, but I never hear of any other type of pain management such as chiropracty, naturopathy, meditation, or physical therapy. It is as if United Healthcare became a psychic substitue for the Abandoning Husband and Father—if, in fact, he actually left the home, or his behaviors in the home just made them feel that way.

There is also no mention of his two sisters coping with their mother's pain in the home. Were they older, and had moved out, leaving him alone to cope as her symptoms got worse? Or was the entire family still together, but he as “the son” was the object of his mother's deepest interaction? This really is a tragic tale.

55 posted on 12/11/2024 9:21:08 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

The healthcare industry does not make money from healthy people. What do you think the fake Vax was all about.


56 posted on 12/11/2024 9:51:39 AM PST by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: bray

lol...Kinda like the guy at the tire shop throwing nails all over the roads...


57 posted on 12/11/2024 9:59:19 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Albion Wilde

That’s definitely part of it. The US subsidizes the world’s healthcare, because those other countries piggy-back their research on US research.

However, it’s also simply differing points as to when you pay. Those with socialized medicine pay whether or not they use it, to ensure access when they do. I’ve paid over $200,000 to no benefit for myself. In the US, you pay at the point of using it, so you have large upfront costs. However, that doesn’t mean it is more expensive when you measure it over the course of your entire life. I will pay, through my taxes, over $300,000 by the time I am 65 which is supposed to cover the last years when a person uses it the most. Is $300,000, having paid upfront, cheaper than an American with a serious issue who has to pay his medical care upfront?


58 posted on 12/11/2024 10:56:56 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: bray

I just explained what it was about.


59 posted on 12/11/2024 1:10:01 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Smart friend.

I’’ve been all over the world and don’t plan to fly again. Last trip was three years ago before that surgery.


60 posted on 12/11/2024 9:00:09 PM PST by Veto! (Kamalala Sucks Rocks)
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