Posted on 10/15/2024 6:50:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Deep State is the permanently entrenched bureaucracy that really runs a country.
It is THE establishment.
While the Deep State concept is commonly associated with the US government, many other countries have their own versions.
Looking at what happens in those countries when an outsider comes to power can help us better understand what the Deep State might do in the US.
If an outsider somehow comes to power, there are three possible outcomes:
The Deep State kills the outsider.
The outsider succeeds in crippling the Deep State and can implement an independent agenda.
The Deep State co-opts the outsider.
Numerous examples of this dynamic have played out in different countries in recent history.
A prominent example of the Deep State killing an outsider is the assassination of JFK.
In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsi was an outsider. However, Morsi did not break the back of the Egyptian Deep State, which swiftly overthrew him. Morsi later died in prison of a “heart attack.”
Economic Hit Man John Perkins claims the Deep State assassinated Jaime Roldos and Omar Torrijos, independent leaders of Ecuador and Panama after they resisted being co-opted.
In Cuba, Fidel Castro’s revolution was able to prevail because he crippled the old Cuban Deep State. Had Castro left the old Cuban Deep State intact, it likely would have overthrown and killed him.
In Iran, there was the Islamic Revolution in 1979 that threw out the US-backed Shah. It succeeded because Khomeini broke the back of the old Iranian Deep State through violent purges of the military and security agencies.
In Russia, it seems Putin was able to tame the old Russian Deep State to a large degree by successfully taking on the oligarchs and making an example out of Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
In Turkey, Erdogan was once considered an outsider. Erdogan came within minutes of losing his life during a military coup in 2016 and was lucky to survive. After that coup failed, Erdogan seems to have tamed Turkey’s Deep State by purging and restructuring the military and intelligence agencies.
In El Salvador, Bukele was a genuine outsider. He successfully broke the old El Salvador Deep State, which the US Deep State really ran. He did this by neutralizing the violent gangs, which would have been the primary way the Deep State would have destabilized Bukele.
Trump’s first term is an excellent example of how the Deep State co-opted an outsider.
There are supposed outsiders in Europe like Giorgia Meloni in Italy or Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. However, they displayed no intent or capability to take on the Deep State in Europe and were easily co-opted by it.
It seems that Fico in Slovakia was too independent for his own good. He barely survived an assassination attempt. I suspect he received the message and will get in line.
The main takeaway from these examples is that an outsider will not succeed in implementing an independent agenda unless he can take on the Deep State and win.
That is a dangerous proposition because there is a good chance the Deep State will kill him first.
Few leaders are willing to take that kind of gamble with their lives. Even fewer succeed.
That’s why many outsiders conclude it’s better to play ball with Deep State.
There is a decent chance Trump could return to the White House in a matter of months.
It’s important to keep this dynamic about the Deep State in mind as we assess the investment implications of Trump’s potential second term.
Given the recent assassination attempts, which nearly succeeded, it seems the Deep State felt Trump was going to be too independent in a second term.
Is Trump willing and able to cripple the Deep State?
Or will he be co-opted, as he largely was during his first term?
If I had to guess, I think Trump understood the message and will be co-opted if he is elected again—which is a big if.
Here’s the bottom line.
In order for Trump to be able to implement an independent agenda, he must:
Survive further Deep State assassination attempts.
Overcome cheating, a hostile media, and other shenanigans to win an election that will be rigged against him in every way possible.
Make the fateful decision to take on the Deep State.
Succeed in crippling the Deep State.
The odds of ALL of these things happening are tiny.
Many people want Trump to be a savior, but it’s not the way to bet—at least given current circumstances.
If investors want to plan for a potential second Trump term, the base case scenario is that the permanently entrenched bureaucracy that really runs a country will co-opt him.
That means we can expect Trump in a second term to continue with the same overall agenda but with a different flavor.
The Deep State’s overall agenda seems to be focused on perpetuating the US-led world order. In other words, the US government’s unmatched global dominance it has enjoyed since the end of World War 2.
The Deep State doesn’t care if Trump implements different social policies or other inconsequential domestic pet projects, so long as he does not do anything to fundamentally alter the dominance of the US in the world—like cutting the US government down to a limited Constitutional Republic with no foreign entanglements.
For example, with a new Trump administration, we will likely see the current anti-Russian focus substituted with an anti-China one. The idea is to continue pursuing a policy of US global hegemony but with a different flavor.
A new anti-China focus means we can expect:
Trade protectionism
Economic sanctions
Trade embargoes
Disruption of supply chains
Trump has also proposed devaluing the dollar to make US exports more competitive, so we can expect more currency debasement too.
Here’s the bottom line.
With the most pivotal election on the horizon, we’ve just entered the most turbulent period in US history…
It will be more dangerous than the 1930s, the 1940s, and even the 1860s.
That’s because severe crises are brewing on multiple fronts and converging.
The whole system will have a complete reset, and soon.
Is the 2024 US presidential election on November 5 going to be where it all comes to a head?
There’s an excellent chance that it will.
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All the Secretaries were from the Swamp. Just let Trump build the wall. Trump would have been part of the establishment. It's a little bit odd because Trump is not really an idealogue other than he wanted strong borders and believed that America should become isolationist, just like we used to be before World Wars.
Defund the Deep State.
He’s gonna get rid of the constitution and become a dictator!
Didn’t you know that?-)
Is it any wonder a resident Zeeper would claim that?
Trump is NOT isolationist. He simply doesn't want us involved with wars that nothing to do with our national security and that are being fought to enrich our elite.
If Trump wins there will be riots and blood running in the streets of America.
If Harris wins there will be riots and blood running in the streets of America.
The NWO / WEF pukes will be sitting back and watching.
And throw them all in prison where they belong.
GITMO?
Sorry, but this whole article is a swing and a miss.
Trump is not gong to be coopted by the deep state.
He’s obviously going to try and take over the control of the whole apparatus on behalf of the working man and woman of the United States; and, will certainly be far more successful this second time around.
I think history will come go believe that it had to be this way, because the American people were not ready to truly take power behind a populist politician until everyone saw the unmasking of the tyrannical government insiders and those who pull their strings.
Good idea.
👍
Even at the risk of damaging or destroying the state. Which is what they were close to the first time when Trump was President.
Also, the powers that be did not "co-opt" Trump, they undermined him every way they could that did not endanger themselves.
Close. They’ll do what they did under Reagan: smiled, said “Yes sir” and continued their agendas when his limited attention was needed elsewhere. The Great Communicator was a not-so-great delegator and wasn’t kept as informed as he should have been.
President Trump, on the other hand, seems to have learned all the hard lessons of betrayal and anti-American agendas suffered from his first term. He was speaking of events the news services either didn’t know of or chose to ignore, illustrating how he’s far more informed than either of the puppets supposedly in charge. When the weasels hide this time around they may find him waiting for them.
Spray tanned, rested and ready to rock - boo yah.
I suspect Trump is going to go at the Deep State directly....and with MAGA having a much firmer grip on the Republican Party this time around, he will have a good chance to really hurt them. He also has a successor in JD Vance so killing him won’t stop the purge of the Deep State he plans. In fact, it is only likely to strengthen MAGA’s resolve - and power - if they do assassinate him after how many attempts is it now? Everybody can see these are not just randos. The Deep State’s fingerprints are all over this.
bump
Perhaps the only way to eliminate the Deep State is something akin to the French Revolution with all its violence.
Unlikely. Trump CAN'T BE BOUGHT and WON'T BE BULLIED.
If trump makes it they’ll crash the economy just to keep him busy. Come January 15th long shoremen go on strike. Etc
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