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It Turns Out Christopher Columbus Might Not Have Even Been Italian - but He Was Most Definitely Jewish
Red State ^ | 10/14/2024 | Susie Moore

Posted on 10/14/2024 3:49:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I need to start this piece with a confession: I have made — on more than one occasion — decisions that, in hindsight, were rather unwise. But I suppose that's why they call it hindsight, no? I'm not certain, had I fully comprehended the scope and implications of a surveillance state at the time, that I would have so willingly spit into a test tube and sent my DNA off to some lab for testing, but indeed, I did. And the reason I did is rather petty.


Portrait of a Man, Said to be Christopher Columbus (born about 1446, died 1506) - Sebastiano del Piombo. (Credit: Wiki Commons/Public Domain)

I blame Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). Actually, I blame myself and my ego and pride and pettiness, but it was her repeated assertions regarding her purported Cherokee ancestry and the subsequent revelation that DNA testing showed her to be 1/1024th Native American that set everything in motion. (Note: Currently available information now says she's between six and 10 generations removed — six generations would be 1/64th, while 10 would be 1/1024th. I am not sure why that has changed since the initial announcement in 2018, but I'm quite certain the 1/1024th was emphasized at that time because that is what prompted what I did in response.)

Upon hearing this revelation, I indignantly thought, "That's dumb — I'm probably more Native American than she is." So, I took a DNA test and discovered that, in fact, I may well be — I'm 1/256th Native American, which I suppose would put my indigenous ancestor eight generations back. Take that, Elizabeth!

In retrospect, perhaps I shouldn't have so willingly offered up my DNA "to a random website that now has full copyright and unregulated access to my genetic code for the rest of time."

But what's done is done — as I said, hindsight. I will say there was a silver lining to this foolhardy endeavor: Because of it, I discovered that I have two "bonus aunts," I otherwise would never have known — both of whom are lovely people. So there's that.

And since I'm one of the not-so-subtly-alluded-to dumbasses from the above video, I'll also share that, unsurprisingly, I learned that I'm 97 percent Northwestern European (72 percent British/Irish; 24 percent French/German; with a smattering of "Broadly Northwestern European) — your standard Euro-mutt. The other roughly three percent? A dollop of Spanish/Portugese — Tapas! — a dash of West African, and a smidgen of Ashkenazi Jew, Indigenous American, and North African.

What does any of this have to do with Christopher Columbus other than the fact that he's been given the heave-ho for "Indigenous Peoples Day" in some quarters? Well, I'll tell you. I'm not the only one whose DNA has been lab-tested. Columbus' has, too. Of course, he's been dead and gone for half a millennia, so he's probably not terribly worried about the surveillance state or some nefarious plot to use his genetic code for ill.

Nevertheless, the results of said testing show that Columbus may not even be the Italian he's long been thought to be, but one thing he is definitively...is Jewish. 

Spanish scientists announced in a new documentary that first aired on Saturday that DNA analysis shows the 15th-century explorer Christopher Columbus was a Sephardic Jew from Western Europe. 

The documentary titled, "Columbus DNA: The true origin," which aired on Spain's national broadcaster TVE, showcases the research of a 22-year investigation led by forensic expert Miguel Lorente, Reuters reported. 

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"We have DNA from Christopher Columbus, very partial, but sufficient. We have DNA from Hernando Colón, his son," Lorente said in the documentary. "And both in the Y chromosome [male] and in the mitochondrial DNA [transmitted by the mother] of Hernando there are traits compatible with Jewish origin."

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Columbus was traditionally believed to have come from Genoa, Italy, though historians also had theorized him as being a Spanish Jew or perhaps Greek, Basque, Portuguese or British. Lorente's study analyzed 25 possible locations, but ultimately could only conclude that Columbus was born in Western Europe, Reuters said.

I feel like this revelation is bound to disappoint my Italian friends. You think you know a guy...



TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: christophercolumbus; columbus; ethnicity; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; italian; jewish
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To: SeekAndFind

DNA confirmed he was a Sephardic (Spanish) Jew. Definitely not Italian.


41 posted on 10/15/2024 6:02:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Petrosius
In the end we are all mutts.

We're ALL descendants of Adam & Eve. We are all descendants/survivors of those on Noah's ark. According to the chart's author, the following chart speculates on racial characteristics based on ancient sources. Your descendants are somewhere on that chart.


42 posted on 10/15/2024 6:45:44 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: rlmorel

I think we’re all kinda jews, aren’t we?


43 posted on 10/15/2024 7:03:07 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: old school

RE: This article was a horrid waste of time!

I thought it was revealing.


44 posted on 10/15/2024 7:06:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Ann Archy

RE: OMG!! For 500 YEARS he’s been an ITALIAN CATHOLIC....PERIOD!

Yes, an Italian Catholic of JEWISH DESCENT. Just like many Jewish Catholic Christians are today. See Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England for instance.

And see here for many other examples:

https://chnetwork.org/converts/jewish/


45 posted on 10/15/2024 7:09:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Columbus’s mother was likely from a Spanish family of conversos, jews that had converted to Christianity. I guess the Dad was Italian. Columbus was a devout Christian.


46 posted on 10/15/2024 7:29:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: xoxox

Well, yeah! Aren’t we all descended from the same people?


47 posted on 10/15/2024 8:23:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind
The First Democrat

Christopher Columbus must have been the very first democrat.
When he left Spain, he didn't know where he was going. When he arrived in North America, he didn't know where he was. And when he got home, he didn't know where he had been. And he did it all on borrowed money.

48 posted on 10/15/2024 9:55:11 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Verginius Rufus
"So Columbus could belong to a Y-DNA haplogroup characteristic of Jews without having recent Jewish ancestry."

Interesting reading at Goog Books The Wife of Columbus.

As to the allegations, there was converso-ism before the 15th century but certainly nothing like the way it got going on full burner during Columbus' lifetime.

The idea that he was born Jewish under halakha borders on the absurd. The idea that he has matrilinear Jewish blood that may or may not qualify as "Jewish" under the laws and/or denomination, not so absurd.

49 posted on 10/15/2024 1:48:54 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: rlmorel
I read some of Samuel Eliot Morison's writings about the explorers a long time ago--excellent historian.

The country now called the Dominican Republic gets its name from the capital city Santo Domingo, founded by Columbus. It was given that name because St. Dominic was his father's patron saint.

50 posted on 10/15/2024 2:45:20 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Excellent-he does have an incredibly engaging and approachable style!

He has a sense of bawdiness in his telling of the tale as an old sailor would, as indeed, he was! I absolutely love his telling of the first encounter between an early French explorer and indigenous Indian tribes along the rocky coast of Maine where the natives treated the explorers to such rude behavior and he described the scene as:

“One can easily imagine the scene, glowering Frenchmen, Indian boys urinating in their direction, braves laughing and turning to bare their buttocks, raising an unholy rackets as only Indians can...”

My apologies to Morison if I have butchered it in my memory, but I could almost visualize him telling the story with the obvious humor on his face...


51 posted on 10/15/2024 5:45:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Columbus DEFINITELY WASN’T ITALIAN because Italy didn’t then exist.

However, his father, grandfather and great-grandfather were weavers in Genoa, seat of the Repubblica di Genova.


52 posted on 10/15/2024 5:53:00 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: SeekAndFind
"...Spanish scientists announced in a new documentary that first aired on Saturday that DNA analysis shows the 15th-century explorer Christopher Columbus was a Sephardic Jew from Western Europe...."

"...We have DNA from Christopher Columbus, very partial, but sufficient. We have DNA from Hernando Colón, his son," Lorente said in the documentary. "And both in the Y chromosome [male] and in the mitochondrial DNA [transmitted by the mother] of Hernando there are traits compatible with Jewish origin...."

By Jewish law, it doesn't count unless he had UNBROKEN Jewish matrilineality. If any of the women he was directly descended from were Gentile, Columbus could have been a "seed of Israel," in which case he would be considered ethnically BUT NOT RELIGIOUSLY Jewish, and only would have been considered religiously Jewish if he formally converted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality_in_Judaism

53 posted on 10/15/2024 6:12:56 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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