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Flat-Broke or Funded? Meet the Penniless Assassin Who Travels Like a Rockstar
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-17-24 | Jeff Childers

Posted on 09/17/2024 8:21:40 AM PDT by Starman417

by Jeff Childers

Failed assassin Ryan Routh was in federal court yesterday, in a hearing quite logically called the “first appearance.” Fox covered the story under the headline, “Trump assassination attempt suspect laughs, smiles during first court appearance in Florida.” Routh was apparently cracking jokes with his public defender, which sounds annoying but could just be his way of managing anxiety.

Details were sparsely provided, but this most interesting paragraph leaped out:

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Right away, we see some problems. For Portlanders, Routh claimed an annual income of $36,000 — far below the poverty level. Which means there is a lot of mysterious money floating around world-traveling Mr. Routh.

Here are only a few of the many possible questions: how did Routh afford international travel to and from Ukraine? Or to buy guns, body armor, and GoPro cameras? Who owns the Nissan truck he tried to escape in? Did he rent it? If so, with what money and what credit? How did Routh get to Florida? Where was he staying? How was he paying for stuff? Cash? Credit?

How did flat-broke Routh get in front of nearly every corporate media camera and reporter in 2022, from Newsweek to the New York Times?

Routh has an extensive low-level criminal record going back decades, including felony weapons violations. How did he buy the gun he brought to Trump’s golf course? According to the FBI’s criminal affidavit, it was a military SKS-style assault rifle made in former Soviet bloc countries, so it wasn’t from around here. The rifle’s serial number was "obliterated" and unreadable to the naked eye.

Why obliterate the serial number? Who is Routh trying to protect? Who gave him that gun?

We’re not the only ones asking questions. Martin County Sheriff Will Snyder, whose officers arrested Routh, gave a courageous —even reckless— press conference yesterday during which he said the quiet part out loud.

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CLIP: Sheriff Snyder wonders about potential conspiracy to assassinate President Trump (1:38).

At yesterday’s Martin County press conference about the arrest, Sheriff Snyder wondered whether Routh could be part of a conspiracy:

“He was smart, he was just driving with the flow of traffic. He may have thought he got away with it. He couldn’t have known a witness took a picture.

He’s not from this area. Which raises the bigger question, how does a guy get all the way to Trump International, realize the former President is golfing, and is able to get a rifle into that vicinity?

Is this guy part of a conspiracy? Or a lone gunman? If he’s part of a conspiracy, then this whole thing takes on a really ominous tone.”

It’s a literal conspiracy theory! And Sheriff Snyder’s question was a good one. But, to expand on his theory: was Routh connected in any way to any U.S. security state agency or NGO? To any Ukrainian security or intelligence agency?

Where has that skinny hedge-hider been hanging out recently? And with whom?

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 202204; assassin; charities; debt; demagogicparty; finances; fraud; hawaii; kathleenshaffer; ngos; oregon; portland; routh; routhqs; ryanrouth; travel; trump; ukraine; zeeperassassin; zeepwarmustcontinue
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To: Bonemaker

Carcano is not that bad of a weapon. The hype is it is bad. That is not really true.


61 posted on 09/17/2024 11:40:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: OldHarbor

He could have bought it from any number of criminals - but he would have needed money. I have no idea what a rifle would cost at the street corner. Would it be cheap as it was stolen in the first place and the seller just NEEDS to buy drugs - or is it expensive?

I’ve seen photos of “teens” at a school dance with rifles stuck down their sweatpant’s legs. (Each kid with multiple rifles!!)


62 posted on 09/17/2024 11:44:12 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: Starman417

Take him out of the country and waterboard him. Get to the bottom of this.


63 posted on 09/17/2024 11:46:14 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood )
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To: OldHarbor

We don’t know yet.

Why is a 58 year old contractor knowing how to grind serial numbers off a piece of metal a big deal, he may have simply done it himself.

He may have stolen the rifle from someone he knew had one, or bought it from a low-life guy he knew, it could have been donated by one of his nutty online contacts of which he must have had contact with many, or he may have stashed it himself back in his gun crime days when stashing guns was a common conversation, and would be especially thought about by a guy who loved guns, owned illegally a fully automatic gun, and who was running into gun crime convictions and losing his right to own a gun.


64 posted on 09/17/2024 12:05:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MayflowerMadam

Aha. I wondered all along whether he flew to North Carolina and then drove down to Florida.

If that is true, he could have got his old gun from the daughter, another relative, or an old buddy.

I don’t know enough about guns to understand why people think scratching out the serial number was so special and difficult. He was used to working with his hands and machinery and reportedly once owned a goodly stash of guns.

Given his delusions of grandeur and flair for the dramatic, I can see him playing out a super spy squirrel clandestine ops sort of fantasy in his mind when he did that.

His actual execution at the scene was lousy, though, poking the muzzle through the fence/shrubbery where the SS could easily spot it, and long before Trump would come into his line of sight and within range. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Obviously had no sniper training.

See the map here showing locations of Routh, the SS and Trump at the time SS spotted him:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/15/us-news/son-of-alleged-would-be-trump-assassin-ryan-routh-claims-father-hates-ex-president-but-is-not-a-violent-person-i-dont-like-trump-either/


65 posted on 09/17/2024 12:08:44 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: central_va

Agreed..absolutely nothing wrong with good bolts, and in fact Mauser actions are my faves. Point is, Carcano not exactly a bench rest/competition high choice. I’d go with a Model 70 or Sako for that.


66 posted on 09/17/2024 12:32:08 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: CodeJockey

SKS has fixed magazine 10 rounder I think. However, this was modified to accept 30 round banana magazines..at least from photo I saw.


67 posted on 09/17/2024 12:38:08 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ansel12
In this part of VA, Local illegal gun trade falls into the Crips and Bloods turf. They won’t be selling rifles to some random white boy just showing up, that you can count on.

If you know a house burglar, you could score a long gun , how many local burglars does he know ?

Buried stashes ? What, is he a pirate? Long Dong Silver coming to get those cutlasses and blunderbuss’s he buried so long ago ?

Or he could just call his handler and get one . This guy is a glow in the dark DeepState operative

68 posted on 09/17/2024 12:55:55 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: OldHarbor

LOL, you seem to have lived a sheltered life, and don’t know much about gun culture either if you missed the many years of articles and discussions in the gun world and prepper world, and in many threads on FR about how and why to stash guns.

You even think burglarizing a house or trailer, especially of someone you know is some sort of closed union job, a specialty that a crime guy like Routh couldn’t do.


69 posted on 09/17/2024 1:09:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

So he was breaking into houses on his way from NC to Florida ?

He was stopping buy and checking with the local burglar’s guild ?

Lemme guess, you have hundreds of guns buried, right ?

Nah, this guy is a Glow Worm.

He’s just a good old boy
Never meaning no harm


70 posted on 09/17/2024 1:20:28 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: OldHarbor

Your childish insistence on being ignorant and not actually paying attention to what you read is obviously an effective way to keep you from thinking.


71 posted on 09/17/2024 1:24:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Nah explain it to me homie.

I’ll do it in reverse, I’ll fly to Hawaii and you tell me where I can get an illegal long gun.

C’mon man, it’s so easy , Contractor Man can do it, help me out, gun culture man .


72 posted on 09/17/2024 1:35:04 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: OldHarbor

So far you haven’t actually responded to any of the posts attempting to clarify things for you.


73 posted on 09/17/2024 1:40:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Ok. So a prepper is going to sell this felon a rifle ?

No, right , unless the prepper is also committing a felony , you do understand that, right Gun Culture Man ?

So, we’re back to Long Dong Silver the pirate digging up his stash of buried weapons !

Nope, not buying that for a second.

So he approaches who, a local crack dealer ? A meth head burglar ?
Sure mister, as they wipe their nose on their sleeve, I can get you a rifle . 😂

Meth head probably has a deal worked with the cops to tip them off to any jackasses trying to buy guns. 😂

Tell me again where did Glow Worm Routh get his gun from?


74 posted on 09/17/2024 1:59:08 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: OldHarbor

Like I pointed out, you have not actually responded to any of the attempts to clarify things for you, something is off with you mentally, along with determined ignorance and inattention you seem oddly angry throughout the thread.


75 posted on 09/17/2024 2:14:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: OldHarbor

If it’s true he was driving his daughter’s SUV, and true that he flew to North Carolina, then drove down to Florida, he could have easily got one of his old guns he’d left with a friend or relative there. Numerous news reports say he had a number of guns in his possession when he lived in NC.

See:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4265379/posts?page=65#65

There was that tip to the FBI that he possessed a gun in Hawaii, which they did not follow up. I don’t know that he could have shipped it to NC or Florida. More likely he just reclaimed one of his old guns in NC or borrowed one from a relative or friend there.


76 posted on 09/17/2024 2:16:24 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: MtnClimber

I’m not so sure he’ll get the Oswald treatment. He never shot at anyone or killed anyone. Siran Siran is still kicking.


77 posted on 09/17/2024 2:18:59 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ansel12

You pointed nothing out.

You say Contractor Man can survive ♪
Scratch the serial #’s off a gun
Contractor Man can survive ♪

Dig up my buried weapons
Contractor Man can survive ♪


78 posted on 09/17/2024 2:20:06 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: Pontiac

We found a cache of 12 SKS carbines, brand new in cosmolene, in Vietnam, 1969. We each got one, and could have shipped them home. After shooting it a few times (maybe 100 rounds), I sold it to a REMF in Saigon for $50. I had better at home.


79 posted on 09/17/2024 3:55:34 PM PDT by umbagi (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it. [Twain])
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To: umbagi

Russian or Chinese manufacture, if you can remember?


80 posted on 09/17/2024 4:02:09 PM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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