Did you steal that from Spock?
Posted on 07/21/2024 8:05:24 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
Russia’s Su-57 Felon Next-generation Fighter Has Its Wings Clipped: It hasn’t been a good summer for the Russian Air Force, and now the Ukrainians are adding insult to injury. One of Russia’s most vaunted warbirds – the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon – was destroyed by a Ukrainian drone strike in June. The resilient and intrepid Ukrainians have raised the stakes in the war against Russia by using drones in deep attack mode. The destruction of the single-seat twin-engine Su-57 Felon must have created another headache for air force leaders in Moscow because it is one of the jewels in the Russian crown.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalsecurityjournal.org ...
Using a drone on a parked plane doesn’t mean the plane’s capacity for war fighting is a disappointment.
Agree 100%. At the end of the day the aircraft itself should be judged on stealth, speed and TCO.
“Every single (Ukrainian) I’ve talked to has said they blame Zelensky (ie the west).
Ironically, I place far more blame on the Neocons, as Zelensky, at the beginning of the war, had a peace deal with Russia all set to be signed and end the fighting. I think what transpired was the following:
1. Russia makes peace overture to Zelensky, and the Neocons give him permission to talk, due to the Neocons being CONVINCED (due to their stupidity) that the war was a simple Land Grab by Russia, and therefore no agreement would be reached.
2. Russia and Ukraine agree due to Russia being willing to settle WITHOUT any territorial concessions (Ukraine keeps all of Donbass, Crimea is worked in the future), and it’s ALARMS SOUNDING in the West, so Boris Johnson goes to Kiev and orders Zelensky to rip up the deal. And he had no choice, as our Nazi-Brownshirts (the Azovs) makes sure that Zelensky follows our directives.
3. Since then, he stays alive by doing as told by the Neocons - that simple.
Your story mirrors mine. The difference, I don’t hate the Soviets ( or the Russians) nor the Nazis ( or Germans) for machine gunning my father in April 1945.
My mother’s and father’s fight is not mine, time changes many things. Hate destroys, generational hate even worse.
I don’t hate them. I just want them both to lose. Especially Russia. The same evil communist rules that nation. Ukraine has enabled corrupt politicians, of both parties, to do tremendous damage to the UsA.
Hence the brackets, but yes. The west had goaded and pushed this and zelensky has played right along.
It’s insane how many people on this site want to get them all killed. I can’t get my head around that. Defies ethics and logic.
“we have spent MORE THAN 100 TIMES to protect corrupt Ukraine’s border than our own border. You had no comment on that point.”
This is the applicable treaty law:
Article 31. - Refugees unlawfully in the country of refuge
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country.
Article 32. - Expulsion
1. The Contracting States shall not expel a refugee lawfully in their territory save on grounds of national security or public order.
2. The expulsion of such a refugee shall be only in pursuance of a decision reached in accordance with due process of law. Except where compelling reasons of national security otherwise require, the refugee shall be allowed to submit evidence to clear himself, and to appeal to and be represented for the purpose before competent authority or a person or persons specially designated by the competent authority.
3. The Contracting States shall allow such a refugee a reasonable period within which to seek legal admission into another country. The Contracting States reserve the right to apply during that period such internal measures as they may deem necessary.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-relating-status-refugees
The Refugee Convention by permitting illegal entry (and entry upon any request) makes it impossible to secure the border. We need to get out from under the Refugee Convention.
Article 44 - Denunciation [getting out from under the Refugee Convention]
1. Any Contracting State may denounce this Convention at any time by a notification addressed to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.
2. Such denunciation shall take effect for the Contracting State concerned one year from the date upon which it is received by the Secretary-General of the United Nations....
NOTE: I do not trust any politician who has not called for invoking Article 44 to get the US out from under the Refugee Convention. And my distrust extends to Trump.
“amenities”
Kindly list some and what you think their (added) 2024 dollar cost would be.
The war in Ukraine demonstrates at least one important truth. While a modern weapon may look impressive on paper, it is worthless if the support system and training is not equally impressive. The sinking of the Moscow and the destruction of so many of the S3 and S4 missile radars by relatively low-tech weapons is a good example of this. Thus, the SU 57 may or may not fail not because Ukraine has better weapons, but depending on whether it can be deployed and maintained competently.
Competence is in short supply on both the Ukrainian and Russian sides.
Did you steal that from Spock?
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