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US Supreme Court allows 40 states to issue their own gold and silver-backed currencies, endorsing dual banking systems.
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Posted on 06/10/2024 3:58:00 PM PDT by davikkm

So apparently the US Supreme Court has just given 40 US states the green light to begin issuing their own gold and silver-backed currencies.

Quote from the SC decision:

“The United States maintains a dual system of banking, made up of parallel federal and state banking systems. That dual system allows privately owned banks to choose whether to obtain a charter from the Federal Government or from a state government.”

www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-529_1b7d.pdf

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: banking; banks; blogkaren; blogpimp; court; currency; gold; money; scotus; stalkertroll; states; supreme
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To: TLI

> Louisiana, Utah, and Texas have passed legislation recognizing gold and silver as legal tender, a move that allows citizens to make transactions using precious metals in place of cash. <

The United States made a major error when it stopped issuing 90% silver coins after 1964. Real silver was replaced by paper promises.

But I don’t see the value in states doing what you mentioned. Couldn’t that be done anyway? Let’s see you have a used car worth $3000. And I have $3000 in gold at that day’s price. There is nothing now to stop me from swapping my gold for your car.

Perhaps these new laws would force you (the car owner) to take the gold even if you don’t want to. If so, bad idea. It’s just another unnecessary law.


61 posted on 06/10/2024 5:19:15 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: RedElement

It can be “pegged” to gold but because of the National Bank and Currency Act it would lose 10% of its face value upon printing.

And believe me, if they actually thought this was a “thing,” Congress would simply increase that tax to 90%.


62 posted on 06/10/2024 5:19:16 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Bonds were issued denominated in Fed currency. If US governments don’t service that debt or service it with greatly devalued currency the bond holders are defrauded


63 posted on 06/10/2024 5:27:42 PM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: Reynoldo

A gold standard would by definition define the value of the coin stamped on the face. A $50 one ounce gold coin is therefore going to $50 worth of gold. The “commodity” price of gold would be something else. If the government really stuck with their $50 ounce gold coin the commodity price would probably come into some kind of equilibrium with the coin cost.


64 posted on 06/10/2024 5:31:31 PM PDT by AceMineral (One day men will beg for chains.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“If the Fed Govt goes full Weimar, won’t everyone convert their state currency into gold?”

They may convert their fed-fiat dollars to a gold-backed state currency, it is a hell of a lot easier to carry around and trade with than gold.


65 posted on 06/10/2024 5:37:29 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I do not doubt that state governments in many Southern, Midwestern, and northern Rockies states are quietly setting up plans for dissociation from Washington should the Democrats repeat what they did in 2020. The cheating will be way more obvious and over the top than it was four years ago. If the state National Guard units follow their governors and their legislatures and ignore the Pentagon, then the Federal government will have real problems enforcing the decrees of Biden, or his possible Democrat replacement.

That being said, the fact is that the Supreme Court said nothing about state banks being able to issue their own currency, as was the case prior to 1864. The ruling discussed the applicability of state law to nationally chartered banks. While Federal law prevails over state law, state laws can be enforced on National banks or Federal savings associations as long as state laws do not restrict the authorities granted under the Federal charter.

66 posted on 06/10/2024 5:43:07 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Reno89519
Balkanizing the country with state-issued currency is unAmerican

What is un-American and clearly not desired by our founders is a central bank, a banking cartel. Which the FED surely is.

Any currency fully backed by gold or silver retains it value anywhere. Paper money backed by government promises (lies) and printing presses does not. Centralization of government power has destroyed this country and is truly un-American

67 posted on 06/10/2024 5:46:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The first step to secession is having your own stable currency. It’s what brought the Confederate States down they didn’t have a stable to trade on the world stage with. States that have their own gold of silver backed banking system can cut ties with the criminal Fed when the time comes. This a huge win for state sovereignty.


68 posted on 06/10/2024 5:47:22 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Hallelujah!!


69 posted on 06/10/2024 5:51:21 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Angelino97
It will turn the state into Zimbabwe, but that's long-term thinking.

Long term? Like next week?

70 posted on 06/10/2024 5:55:26 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: Leaning Right

except where it says No State shall MAKE anything but Gold and Silver coin a tender in payment of debt.


71 posted on 06/10/2024 6:02:29 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Billthedrill
A five-dollar gold piece at today’s rate would be 1/465 of an ounce. I’m trying to visualize what that might look like...

A coin 2 mm across and 1 mm thick. Don't inhale.

72 posted on 06/10/2024 6:06:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: Reno89519

Balkanizing the Country is exactly American. A union of the States, with their own rights and charters, and their people. Smaller Government is American. More local Government is American. The US Constitution is what the EU wishes it was, and can never be. The States were and should be, their own independent Countries that use the Federal Government as a mediary for basic needs like Military and Post Office.

The Federal Government has usurped too much authority reserved to the states, by both the People and the States.

The states are supposed to have more power then Fedzilla, and I see currencies, especially with digital Central currency looming, as something they should have control of.

State Supremacy is a thing we need to get back for this country to right its course.

The Dollar is a currency that needs to either go back to being gold backed, or eliminated in its current form, along with the Fed.


73 posted on 06/10/2024 6:07:09 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Only peaceful solution is a national divorce. There is no harmony between the statists and the right)
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To: davikkm

Unreal...The Feds alone have the right to regulate money.


74 posted on 06/10/2024 6:11:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Billthedrill

You would need a magnifying glass. And a strong one.


75 posted on 06/10/2024 6:15:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Leaning Right

That’s not what it says.

No state shal… make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;”

is pretty clear.


76 posted on 06/10/2024 6:16:23 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: Leaning Right

“”But I don’t see the value in states doing what you mentioned.””

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I don’t know about you but I would take just about anything Texas starts issuing over FRNs.

If the communists fraud their way through the next election I’m not waiting for Texas, I will find another way.

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77 posted on 06/10/2024 6:17:47 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: eyeamok

> No State shall MAKE anything but Gold and Silver coin a tender in payment of debt <

I’m not a constitutional scholar. But it seems to me that sentence means a state cannot force a person to accept, say, cows as payment for a debt.

So let’s say you owe me $1000. You must pay me in gold or silver. You cannot drive 10 cows to my property and say now we’re even (unless I agree, of course).


78 posted on 06/10/2024 6:22:27 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Angelino97

It will turn the state into Zimbabwe, but that’s long-term thinking.

At the rate California spends money, that’s not long term, that’s VERY short term.


79 posted on 06/10/2024 6:23:35 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: Paladin2
Supply and demand seem to effect the price [value] of gold.

It does, but the wild fluctuations (as in the later '70s) had more to do with the perception of a falling dollar. Supply is relatively stable, excepting only extraordinary events like Spain collecting large amounts of gold in a short period of time in the New World.

When the U.S. Currency was backed by gold, the fluctuation was much less.
80 posted on 06/10/2024 6:24:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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