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To: BroJoeK
All it has done is allow the criminals to fleece the American taxpayers, while letting the nation's infrastructure go to decay & waste.

We have been allowing uncontrolled legal immigration. as well as, illegal immigration in order for the top 1 percent to become even move wealthy, because the whole purpose is to bring in cheaper labor, because their wealth is never enough.

Ukraine is a constitutionally structured republic with democratically elected officials who are simply defending their country from foreign invaders.

Russia does the same thing, but in fact, Zelenskyy is acting like a dictator that you claim Putin is. Putin is certainly no angel, but the U.S. has been nothing but bellicose towards Russia & Putin.

You are a simpleton who can't see the realities, because you have been successfully brainwashed/conditioned just like Pavlov's dog, and Russia/Potin is your red meat that makes you salivate. Good boy.

You need to look around & employ critical thinking skills, then perhaps you can start to see the BS that you swallow without question. Biden said right off that we need to take this man out. Instead of pushing a peace agreement, would have saved much blood shed, as well as, kept Ukraine intact, but that wasn't what was wanted. What was wanted is exactly what we are seeing, a proxy war that is destroying Ukraine, because it is the criminal 1 percent wants more control, and Ukraine has lots to offer.

Wake up before it's too late. You are helping evil, period.

25 posted on 01/14/2024 3:32:23 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong; PIF; gleeaikin; UMCRevMom@aol.com; JonPreston
Robert DeLong: "All it has done is allow the criminals to fleece the American taxpayers, while letting the nation's infrastructure go to decay & waste."

Repeated Russian propaganda, to the effect that criminals are fleecing American taxpayers through Ukraine aid, is not supported by any actual evidence I've ever seen.
As best I can tell, your words here are meaningless.

As for American infrastructure, that is a very different subject, a matter of political policies and priorities.
Sadly, our Democrats are less concerned with the nation's infrastructure than they are with their own radical agenda, spending untold $trillions on insane vote-buying schemes like "green new deal" and college student loan forgiveness.
The result is that even if we eliminated 100% of Ukraine aid it would not improve our infrastructure or border security one bit, because those are not things our Democrats care about.

The only thing that can improve those problems is voting Democrats out of political power and restoring sanity to our national policies and priorities.

Ukraine has nothing to do with any of that.

Robert DeLong: "We have been allowing uncontrolled legal immigration. as well as, illegal immigration in order for the top 1 percent to become even move wealthy, because the whole purpose is to bring in cheaper labor, because their wealth is never enough."

I gather from your words that you are not really American and so don't really understand what's going on here.
In fact, our government-managed flood of illegal immigrants is only tangentially related to cheaper labor.
The real existential purpose for Democrats is to increase Democrat representations in Congress, in the face of massive population flights from the Big Cities, which are the core of Democrat political power.
Illegal immigrants increase Democrat representation even though they cannot vote.
Massive illegal immigration is also intimately related to radical Democrat goals of Voter Replacement and Accelerationism.

Robert DeLong: "Russia does the same thing, but in fact, Zelenskyy is acting like a dictator that you claim Putin is.
Putin is certainly no angel, but the U.S. has been nothing but bellicose towards Russia & Putin."

No, first of all -- there is a huge difference between Russia and Ukraine, beginning with this: Vlad the Invader has been Russia's dictator for effectively 24 years now, making him Russia's longest serving ruler since Joseph Stalin's 30 years from 1922 to 1952.
By stark contrast, Ukraine has constitutionally elected six presidents since 1991, only one ever reelected, meaning Ukraine's democratic institutions are strong and frequently exercised, unlike Russia's atrophied democracy rendering Russia an effective dictatorship.

As for allegations that Ukraine's Pres. Zelenskyy rules "like a dictator", it's just nonsense, since any country under invasion from foreign armies -- including the USA -- grants temporary emergency war-powers to its leaders, in hopes they can direct the country's resources toward victory.

Finally, here, your word "bellicose" is meaningless nonsense, since it violates a basic tenet of US foreign policy going back well over 100 years to the time of Pres. Teddy Roosevelt:

So for Americans, loud "bellicose" talk is a sign of weakness and would absolutely be interpreted as weakness by aggressive dictators like Vlad the Invader.
Clearly, combined with our disgraceful and unnecessary abandonment of Afghanistan, Vlad was provoked by American weakness into doing what he has intended for many years, to fulfill his pledges to begin to restore Russia's Old Empire of Fear.

Robert DeLong: "You are a simpleton who can't see the realities, because you have been successfully brainwashed/conditioned just like Pavlov's dog, and Russia/Potin is your red meat that makes you salivate.
Good boy."

Here you are simply describing your own mental state and projecting it onto me.
It is a propaganda tactic long used by the Old Soviets and also increasingly by our own US Sovietized Democrat radicals.

So, here's the truth of this -- I see perfectly well that Vlad the Invader is fundamentally an Old Soviet KGB LtCol, who has now ruled Russia for 24 years and intends to restore as much as possible of the Old Soviet & Tsarist Russian Empires.
I see clearly that "Putin's Brain", Alexander Dugin, has laid out the philosophical and mystical-religious basis for a resurrected Russian Empire of Fear.
I see Vlad's decades long pattern of serial threats & aggressions against Russia's neighbors, combined resembling nothing so much as the 1930s.
And I see a new very dangerous "Axis of Evil" including Russia's Vlad the Invader, the CCP's Xi-snake, NoKo's Little Kim and Iran's Moolah Mullahs, among others.

Fundamentally, we are looking at a world divided between peace-loving more democratic countries versus militarily aggressive dictatorships.

Robert DeLong: "You need to look around & employ critical thinking skills, then perhaps you can start to see the BS that you swallow without question.
Biden said right off that we need to take this man out.
Instead of pushing a peace agreement, would have saved much blood shed, as well as, kept Ukraine intact, but that wasn't what was wanted.
What was wanted is exactly what we are seeing, a proxy war that is destroying Ukraine, because it is the criminal 1 percent wants more control, and Ukraine has lots to offer."

So far as I can tell, not even a single word that is factual.
It's all just propaganda fever dreams from the Kremlin's information sewer pipes, having no more relation to reality than a paranoid's abstract painting might.

Robert DeLong: "Wake up before it's too late.
You are helping evil, period."

Obviously you are disoriented and fundamentally confused about the basic differences between good and evil, right and wrong, up and down, day and night.
So I doubt if anything I post here can slap any sense into you, but let me try by showing you the Big Picture, the world's New Axis of Evil, aggressive dictatorships versus more peace-loving western style democracies.

Shades of blue = more democratic. Shades of red = more authoritarian:

28 posted on 01/15/2024 2:52:12 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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