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CA vs. ND, Newsome vs. Noem, Statistics vs. Disinformation: Gun Control War
AmmoLand ^ | November 22, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/24/2023 4:01:31 AM PST by marktwain

In September, an invitation by Governor Noem of [Sou]th Dakota, followed by a response from Governor Newsome of California, illustrates how people use numbers to lie with statistics.

The Governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem, invited more gun manufacturers and gun owners to come to South Dakota and take up residence.

From contracosta.news:

PIERRE, S.D. – Governor Kristi Noem invited California gun manufacturers and law-abiding gun owners to move to South Dakota to escape California’s gun and ammunition tax , which Governor Gavin Newsom signed as the first such tax in the country.

“Why would anyone want to live in a state where your Second Amendment rights are infringed?” said Governor Noem. “South Dakota has been setting the standard as the most Second-Amendment friendly state in the nation for years. Our firearms industry is thriving. Unlike Governor Newsom, South Dakota respects our God-riven rights. So if you are a California gun manufacturer or law-abiding gun owner, we are ready to help you make the move!”

On X, formerly Twitter, Governor Gavin Newsom replied:

South Dakota has a 59% higher gun death rate than California.

California, as of 2020, the last year of available records, had a 33% higher homicide rate than [Sou]th Dakota.


(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


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An example of Governor Newsome lying with statistics.
1 posted on 11/24/2023 4:01:31 AM PST by marktwain
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Why expect anything else from Gruesome? His whole life is a lie.


2 posted on 11/24/2023 4:41:42 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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Just compare the per capita murder rate in North Dakota vs Kalifornia. I'll wager that Kalifornia’s is five times worse...even though they have much more “common sense gun control” than does ND.
3 posted on 11/24/2023 4:49:41 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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If you look at the last five years of data, the average California murder rate is 4.8 to South Dakota’s 2.8. Using the actual, not rounded numbers, California has murder rate 1.69 times as high as South Dakota.


4 posted on 11/24/2023 5:15:05 AM PST by marktwain
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OK....and those stats apply to a state with few,if any,gun laws vs a state which holds the 2nd Amendment in open contempt.


5 posted on 11/24/2023 5:20:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: marktwain

Butt, butt, butt.....(p)residential material on the democommie side wouldn’t lie would they? 🤔😳

🙏🇺🇸🇮🇱👍


6 posted on 11/24/2023 5:27:52 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: sauropod

Gruesome is Pelosi’s nephew. What would anyone expect given that genetic mix?


7 posted on 11/24/2023 5:36:16 AM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: marktwain

Newsome doesn’t need statistics to lie. With him, lying is genetic.


8 posted on 11/24/2023 5:46:02 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: marktwain

Article mixes up South Dakota and North Dakota. Don’t know if it’s just a typo, and the statistics are actually right for SD, or what.


9 posted on 11/24/2023 5:47:29 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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California resigned from America. North Dakota did not


10 posted on 11/24/2023 5:48:41 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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59% higher gun death rate

"Gun death rate" includes suicides and also includes perps shot by police or shot in self-defense. It makes sense to people who assume the gun is the problem, rather than the criminal.

11 posted on 11/24/2023 5:49:45 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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Article mixes up South Dakota and North Dakota. Don’t know if it’s just a typo, and the statistics are actually right for SD, or what.

Two errors where North Dakota is substituted for South Dakota, which were corrected in this excerpt. The difference between South Dakota and California is clarified in post #4.

12 posted on 11/24/2023 6:09:57 AM PST by marktwain
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Thanks! As a native South Dakotan, we care about such things. :-)


13 posted on 11/24/2023 6:23:04 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: marktwain

14 posted on 11/24/2023 7:12:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: marktwain

Headline needs correction.


15 posted on 11/24/2023 8:11:18 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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You are correct. I am not allowed to change headlines.


16 posted on 11/24/2023 8:45:48 AM PST by marktwain
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It makes sense to people who assume the gun is the problem, rather than the criminal.

This is why we have to reject the term "gun violence". Guns are not the issue. Violent offenders are. Instead of "getting guns off our streets", the issue is to get the criminals off our streets.

17 posted on 11/24/2023 11:00:49 AM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: marktwain

North Dakota, South Dakota, same thing.


18 posted on 11/24/2023 11:01:58 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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If Germany can reunite, why can’t the Dakotas?


19 posted on 11/24/2023 11:03:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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This is why we have to reject the term "gun violence". Guns are not the issue. Violent offenders are.

Correct. The creation of the term "gun violence" was to direct legislative attention to guns. By focusing on guns, the problem is defined as guns.

This is classic manipulation of thinking by Orwellian phrase creation.

20 posted on 11/24/2023 12:00:28 PM PST by marktwain
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