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ouglas Murray Leaves Piers Morgan Speechless, Delivers a Chilling Warning to the West
Red State ^ | 11 Nov 2023 | Bonchie

Posted on 11/12/2023 5:24:20 PM PST by Rummyfan

If you aren't familiar with Douglas Murray, you will be soon. In the wake of the Hamas invasion of Israel which has now led to a prolonged conflict in Gaza, the author and journalist has emerged as a rare voice of clarity.

Specifically, Murray has not held back in critiquing the threats to Western civilization that have become entrenched over the years, and while his domain is primarily Europe and the United Kingdom, his warnings extend to the United States. As RedState reported, recent violent protests in New York City resembled something you'd see in a third-world Middle Eastern country, with masked men kicking in doors and tearing down American flags.

One of the primary things Murray has spoken out about is the idea that most of the protesters involved aren't pro-Hamas. Piers Morgan tried that line on him, and the journalist was ready to go with a response. It's not often you see Morgan, one of the world's foremost talking heads, left without a retort.

MORGAN: Well, there is, but I don't think that all of these protesters are pro-Hamas. I think you're making...

....

MURRAY: Okay, well here's a challenge, Piers. If you decided to go on some kind of march and in week one you discovered that you had the BMP calling, for instance, for the murder of all black people, would you not wonder whether or not you should go on week two? Would you not drop out by week three? I would have thought so, I would.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: civilization; douglas; douglasmurray; hamas; media; murray; ouglas; ouglasmurray
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To: Rummyfan

WIKI

The BNP adheres to an ideology of ethnic nationalism. It promotes the idea that not all citizens of the United Kingdom belong to the British nation. Instead, it states that the nation only belongs to “the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh along with the limited numbers of peoples of European descent, who have arrived centuries or decades ago and who have fully integrated into our society”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party


21 posted on 11/12/2023 7:25:24 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: strider44

He’s on Gutfeld a lot. Greg seems to have a lot of gay conservatives do his show.

It doesn’t bother me.


22 posted on 11/12/2023 7:26:44 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Rummyfan
Murray is brilliant. I can personally recommend the following: The War On The West, The Madness Of Crowds - Gender, Race, and Identity, and The Strange Death Of Europe - Immigration, Identity, and Islam.

A sample of his writing - this one is from the epilogue to Madness of Crowds:

Yet if the absence of serious discussion and the innate contradictions alone were enough to stop this new religion of social justice, it would barely have got started. People looking for this movement to wind down because of its inherent contradictions will be waiting a long time. Firstly because they are ignoring the Marxist substructure of much of this movement, and the inherent willingness to rush towards contradiction rather than notice all these nightmarish crashes and wonder whether they aren't telling you something about your choice of journey.

But the other reason why contradiction is not enough is because nothing about the intersectional, social justice movement suggests that it is really interested in solving any of the problems that it claims to be interested in. The first clue lies in the partial biased, unrepresentative and unfair depiction of our own societies. Few people think that a country cannot be improved on, but to present it as riddled with bigotry, hatred and oppression is at best a partial and at worst a nakedly hostile prism through which to view society. It is an analysis expressed not in the manner of a critic hoping to improve, but as an enemy eager to destroy.

23 posted on 11/12/2023 7:50:08 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: FreedomForce

And of course, there are some that will bring this up for no reason, whatsoever.

A lot of people would just simply listen to what he has to say and make their decisions, but it seems like there are times when irrelevant facts have to be brought up by irrelevant people.


24 posted on 11/12/2023 9:03:09 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Deaf Smith

British National Party....an apparent far-right, British fascist political party in the United Kingdom.

You know...because someone said so.


25 posted on 11/12/2023 9:05:17 PM PST by qaz123
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To: ClearCase_guy

A recent interview on Joe Rogan with Tim Kennedy brings this up.

He puts out that if Hamas dropped their weapons, promised no more violence, and kept that promise Israel would stop(maybe not in this case b/c of what Hamas did).

But....if Israel dropped their weapons, Hamas would go into Israel and slaughter everyone.

Can’t co-exist with those types of people. Not possible


26 posted on 11/12/2023 9:08:59 PM PST by qaz123
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To: griswold3

Taibbi?


27 posted on 11/12/2023 9:42:49 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: griswold3; Rummyfan
Douglas Murray. One of the good ones

Shame that he's homosexual.

Regards,

28 posted on 11/12/2023 10:57:31 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Pollard
Had no idea he was gay. Just thought he was English

Yeah, a British accent can seriously interfere with one's gaydar.

Regards,

29 posted on 11/12/2023 10:58:44 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Shame that he’s homosexual.

I would agree.

The question is, how do “we” know that he is?

and why?

Was he ratted out, or does he wear it openly? and if so, why?

For example does everyone not gay and unmarried, get automatically labeled as a serial fornicator or a womanizer?

The not gay tend to be labeled journalist as there is a real tendency to avoid unfavorable labels by normal folks.

It speaks to Murray’s comment regarding Nazi’s wanting to cover up their crimes against humamity rather than the pride of Hamas in showing glee and overt joy at their crimes against the Jews.

and what is even more stunning is Hamas attention to only one twelfth, of their problem. It means to me they have little understanding of whom it is occupying the land of Israel now or in the future when all of the children of Israel return to their promised lands, to include the tribes of all twelve sons of Jacob and not the sons of Judah only.


30 posted on 11/13/2023 12:01:30 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Rummyfan
He shows up a lot on the Gutfeld! show on Fox News.

He's also on Outnumbered often.

-PJ

31 posted on 11/13/2023 12:53:16 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: wita

I don’t know how or when it became known that Murray is gay. He’s open about it, but keeps the details private. I don’t think i’ve ever heard him say anything about his relationships, but I have heard him say that he is gay. He doesn’t buy into the trans nonsense or the multiple genders nonsense. He’s not a fan of the gay pride BS. He does support gay marriage.


32 posted on 11/13/2023 12:55:00 AM PST by FreedomForce
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To: Rummyfan

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33 posted on 11/13/2023 4:04:01 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: FreedomForce

He is certainly well spoken and the fact he is fairly quiet about his orientation means I’ll listen. Non of us are perfect, but it grates on me to have someone wearing their homosexuality on their sleeve preaching news doctrine or any doctrine for that matter.


34 posted on 11/13/2023 6:36:25 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: FreedomForce

PS Thanks for the response.


35 posted on 11/13/2023 6:37:49 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Combat_Liberalism

“Cops won’t arrest violent Pro-Hamas demonstrators. “

New York police arrest hundreds after Israel-Hamas protest ...

More than 300 are arrested in a Capitol Hill protest urging ...

Over 200 arrested at Grand Central Terminal during rally ...

Nearly 300 arrested in House office building after Israel ...

Over 30 people arrested outside White House during protest ...


36 posted on 11/13/2023 7:55:59 AM PST by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: wita
The question is, how do “we” know that he is?

Do a little research!

Murray has made absolutely no secret of his orientation.

Regards,

37 posted on 11/13/2023 11:35:04 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: sergeantdave

Those are the exceptions.


38 posted on 11/14/2023 1:06:13 PM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Combat_Liberalism

Here’s another 35,000,000.

https://www.google.com/search?q=palestinians+arrested&client=safari&sca_esv=582393838&channel=mac_bm&source=hp&ei=iuJTZY-DM_ffkPIPuPCTyAw&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZVPwmgkUVAIqWVKMUAC0SKctnafemzyJ&ved=0ahUKEwiP8Ivcs8SCAxX3L0QIHTj4BMkQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=palestinians+arrested&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhVwYWxlc3RpbmlhbnMgYXJyZXN0ZWRIsFtQAFijTnAAeACQAQCYAa0BoAGjE6oBBDAuMjG4AQPIAQD4AQHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjHARjRA8ICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEY0QPCAhEQLhiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABMICBRAuGIAEwgILEC4YigUYsQMYgwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCxAuGIMBGLEDGIAEwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBjHA8ICCBAAGIoFGIYD&sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1


39 posted on 11/14/2023 1:15:16 PM PST by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: wita

When I see it brought up, it is usually in the context of some leftist trying to discredit his ‘straight whit cisgender male opinions ‘.


40 posted on 12/01/2023 9:41:52 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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