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Ok, Israel might actually be screwed
Twitter ^ | 10/8/2023 | CatGirl Kulak

Posted on 10/08/2023 9:03:31 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: Drew68
According to some on this thread who I had this discussion with yesterday, the US just finds some empty lots in countries like Israel and "pre-positions" its military hardware on those lots.

The military hardware is not actually in anyone's custody [like, say the Israeli military in this example] - it just lies around on the empty lots for whenever we show up and need it.

Nobody will mess with it, so we don't need it guarded or locked up, or anything like that.

After all - it's OURS. ;-)

61 posted on 10/08/2023 10:24:06 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

see my post #61


62 posted on 10/08/2023 10:25:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ansel12
It is looking like it might have something to do with Ukraine

You're beginning to connect the dots. One of the costs of the neocon and US State Department's obsession with Ukraine was that other theaters became vulnerable for the United States and its allies.

63 posted on 10/08/2023 10:28:25 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Drew68

“If the 300,000 rounds the US took from Israeli stockpiles to give to Ukraine corresponds to that 80% that Israel’s supposedly down then they basically can’t sustain combined armed warfare, since the 2014 Gaza war took 34,000 rounds of artillery alone.”

Well, we all thought it was stupid at the time, but
“Stupid is as stupid does.”


64 posted on 10/08/2023 10:34:00 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: MinorityRepublican
100,000 dead to starvation. The international community would never approve that.

You are certainly correct on that point.

But does it matter anymore? The "international community" seems to approve of the Hamas attack on Israel and the ultimate extermination of that State. A great many people in the United States have the same opinions. No, I am not in that camp. But a great many of our "political elites" are in that camp.

So, what is the downside of a genocidal war against the Palestinians? The Israelis are pretty much screwed no matter what they do, and they just sent way too much of their artillery ammunition to the Ukraine in support of that fiasco. They don't have enough supplies left to endure a protracted conflict or commit to a major offensive. Nor do they appear to have capable military and intelligence organizations for such projects.

And we are not really going to help them either. The best we might do is tacit approval for whatever the Israelis end up doing. Maybe not even that much. Our carrier groups will probably stay well clear of Iranian and Chinese anti-ship missiles on the coasts and monitor the activities. Whatever intel they gather will likely be compromised to all sides of the conflict.

Siege warfare is cheap and effective, compared to other tactics. It can also be quick if done with utter ruthlessness.

We should stay out of it as much as possible.

65 posted on 10/08/2023 10:36:33 PM PDT by flamberge (Slowly, and then all at once.)
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To: Drew68

Given the incompetence of Biden, he may have compromised our nation’s security by mismanaging our munition supply. This is a time that is ripe for China’s capture of Taiwan. That would be disaster for the West because Taiwan is the major source of semiconductors used in our vehicles.


66 posted on 10/08/2023 10:39:48 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: lonestar67
That’s my take. Whoever wrote this is spreading FUD with no basis.

Implying that Egypt and otherwise Arab states might join to fight Israel? You mean the ones to which the US send military aid? We just sent $235 million to Egypt, and this dipsh!t thinks Egypt will turn around and declare war on Israel? Over Gaza?! He missed 50 years of history. The Israelis have a Peace Accord with Egypt, and the Egyptians have no interest in helping save Gaza.

67 posted on 10/08/2023 10:44:19 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: BenLurkin

A few MOABs would take care of things. They want to die for Allah, so send them there.


68 posted on 10/08/2023 10:44:23 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Jonty30

What munitions have been sent to Ukraine that would be relevant to a defense of Taiwan?

To me these would be Naval weapons, primarily.

Plus long range Air Force munitions, including both standoff weapons with @1000km range or greater, plus, maybe, the latest AMRAAMs.

I count nothing of these having been sent to Ukraine, but thats just me. What specific systems come to your mind?


69 posted on 10/08/2023 10:44:28 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Drew68

God isn’t going to allow Israel to fall.


70 posted on 10/08/2023 10:44:41 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Drew68

Forgetting one thing though...

The God Factor.

I think we will actually see Him show up on this one, once it escalates to full scale.


71 posted on 10/08/2023 10:45:41 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Drew68

This guys had no idea what several thousand drones can do, especially in space as small as Gaza. Look at RU/UKR


72 posted on 10/08/2023 10:47:59 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: buwaya

You’re probably right in that it is mostly an invasion from the sea, but I think once China does invade, Taiwan may need munition replenishment and we don’t have it.


73 posted on 10/08/2023 10:53:19 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: NautiNurse

And I heard or read that the Dome interceptors were working again……

….maybe ‘fog of war’


74 posted on 10/08/2023 11:07:13 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Jonty30

If China gets a substantial bridgehead on Taiwan, thats all she wrote. If their amphibious transports get to the beaches Taiwans only hope is to crush them on the beach or on the water.

Thats why Taiwan has 1000+ pieces of artillery. Taiwan has few viable beaches and the island is small enough for most of their guns to cover most of them without moving much. Any attempted landing is likely to be crushed by a firepower concentration without precedent in history, landing on an also unprecedented concentration of targets.

Chinas only hope is to risk everything on one shot, absorb massive casualties, and carry on if possible. It will be 24-48 hours of hell, after which it will be perfectly clear who won.

There will be no option to bombard each other for months across trenchlines (which is what eats ammo in Ukraine), there is no room for this.

If China fails to take a viable bridgehead, their losses in trained units and shipping will be such as to preclude another attempt for years.


75 posted on 10/08/2023 11:15:56 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jonty30

The biggest danger to Taiwan is a Chinese blockade, by sea and air. An invasion will be a massive risk. Taiwan is a great fortress with a formidable moat.


76 posted on 10/08/2023 11:18:57 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jonty30

Taiwan,I believe, makes its own ammunition. They also have significant stockpiles.


77 posted on 10/08/2023 11:24:31 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( Starve the Beast and steal its food)
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To: Drew68

Retard FBJ strikes again


78 posted on 10/08/2023 11:34:57 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jonty30
If my understanding of Gog and Magog is correct, Israel’s one war, where its existence is actually threatened, will bring Israel to repentance. Then, God will intervene.

Yes, God will prove to Israel in that moment who their true messiah is by miraculously destroying the invading armies. It will be at a moment when Israel is weak and unable to repel the assault themselves.

79 posted on 10/08/2023 11:50:28 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Jonty30

Interesting point. One thing I have noticed is that the central attack seems to have come through the Israeli musical festival called the Supernova festival in Gaza. As I understand it, this festival is very similar to the Burning Man rave in the Nevada desert. That is, a pagan festival of wild dancing, drugs, sex, and general debauchery.

What I also noticed from a video clip posted from this festival was a giant Buddha-like god display on a center stage as Israeli kids are dancing and partying in front of. The person filming the video pans to the incoming para-gliders in the overhead skies. As I watched and rewatched the video multiple times I kept thinking about Israel and the book of Isaiah which I just finished reading.


80 posted on 10/08/2023 11:53:56 PM PDT by Obadiah
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