Posted on 10/08/2023 9:03:31 PM PDT by Drew68
Artillery is 90% of all effective firepower. Airborne munitions can't cycle through endless tons of explosive the way arty can, and they cost vastly more.
If this is true and Israel has only 20% its arty stockpile, then Hamas isn't suiciding Gaza on pyre of defiance like people think. They timed this perfectly to lure Israel into writing cheques they can't cash in the hopes Israel will invade Gaza with infantry at which point they can grind them down endlessly with basically unending Arab volunteers in brutal urban warfare... where most of their technological advantage is gone and they won't have the most important 1/3rd of combined arms warfare.
This also would explain the brutality and the focus on taking as many civilian hostages as they can, since Israel can't just leave hundreds of Israeli civilians in Gaza and declare they aren't going to get them back... They're pretty much trapped fighting a ground war with what little artillery they have.
If the 300,000 rounds the US took from Israeli stockpiles to give to Ukraine corresponds to that 80% that Israel's supposedly down then they basically can't sustain combined armed warfare, since the 2014 Gaza war took 34,000 rounds of artillery alone.
Even if they have hundreds of thousands left, they can only use a fraction of them on Gaza since they need enough that they could fight a high intensity war with Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon if they intervene... let alone if Iran and Iraq start sending forces (US invasion handed Iraq to the Shia majority who align with Iran)
So even if they have another 300k artillery shells lying around, at most that'd be tens of thousand of available to actually use on Gaza without risk of being drowned by its rivalled arab neighbors in a multi-nation war.
That means the fighting to "open the gates of hell" or "wipe Gaza off the map" as some commentators are calling for will have to be done by air assets which can't realistically deliver the tonnage, and ground troops who would be dying at horrific ratios as urban settings negate most of the advantage of military tech.
Israel's active duty force only has 20ish thousand infantry in active force, even activating the 400k reserves you can only use a portion since there's the constant threat of a multinational war breaking out, Hezbollah in the north, and the entire west bank that could pop off...
So they have to punish Gaza, extract the hostages or their bodies, and achieve enough objectives to declare victory... against a population of 4 million! +Every radical fighter in the middle-east from Afghanistan to Aberdeen chomping at the bit to get in there... and they'll have to do it with... maybe 10k full time infantry? Maybe 20-30k counting the reservists?
In urban warfare? With limited artillery?
Hamas might actually have them...
They might have actually played their cards right to create the conditions for a Vietnam in the holy lands.
Remember Israel's active force of 169,000 is both genders and conscripts... You start losing a lot of people or start having to reassign 19 year old girls who never wanted to hold a rifle to infantry. that will grind down morale damned fast and tear open Israel's social divisions.. Not least between liberal secular jews who actually serve and the conservative orthodox who dodge the draft through "religious study."
You mentioned one source that you claim reported the Iron Dome supplies are depleted, I don’t know that source, do you have some more widely known sources?
You didn’t even link to your source’s article.
I only know that some Jews, who consider themselves pious and want to spend their entire tine supposedly studying the Torah often use the welfare system to enable them.
I'm listening to live tv news while working. Not my concern if you have never heard of News Nation. They've been around for several years. Again, your "unlikely" comment was not necessary.
It seems to me that Hamas wants Israel to go into Gaza. I sense a trap. Better to take things slowly.
So far you haven’t posted anything to support the claim you are spreading around.
Telling me the name News Nation doesn’t show me the facts you claim.
Taiwan would be defended with submarines, ships, aircraft, etc.
Not what was sent to Ukraine.
Israel faces a problem with urban warfare and it being unlikely they will totally wipe out Gaza.
But they are not without munitions.
Is the Hamas attack part of a strategy by Russia, Iran, and others to exploit our weaknesses?
Of course.
There should be no Gaza after this. The name itself shouldn’t exist. Ask other Arab nations to absorb Gaza’s civilian population , or at least the female and children bit. After that flatten the city and rebuild it from scratch as an integral part of Israel.
I’ve been around here long enough to know when I am providing reliable info. If you don’t like it, then move along.
I don’t know...but this guy’s feed seems to be getting text alerts to bombings before the Iron Dome. And I have an app (Red Alert) hooked up to it.
His phone pings...then boom.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DILmIFr7uC0
Could be coincidental.
Siege warfare is effective. No electricity. No water. No food.
Followed by bulldozers
Oh ye of little faith.
That’s what I do every day, I pray for Israel 🇮🇱.
Amen. We all need to.
There is no angst, I simply asked you to prove your claim and so far my request has resulted in zero verification from you.
I’ve been around enough to know that you aren’t always a good source of accurate information.
I’m sure the Israeli air forces (aka “artillery with wings”) are up to the task.
CC
You are acting possessed by demons. Take two aspirin and call an exorcist 👹
We preposition our weapons to use as we choose and it is silly for you to think the moving of our 155 shells helped lead to this attack.
It is looking like it might have something to do with Ukraine in the sense of Iran and Russia knowing how it will help Russia though.
That idea is reflected in some of the glee of Putin’s supporters here, there is a lot of glee in their predictions of how this helps Putin in his European invasion.
Isn’t it interesting how when the US released 6 billion not too long ago it wasn’t much of a story but now everyone has an opinion
They already hit three command centers... one of which was a mosque.
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