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Close Call at JFK International
Flying Magazine ^ | 16 Jan 2023 | MegGodlewski

Posted on 01/16/2023 2:21:57 PM PST by Rummyfan

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Thank Gawd there was no collision.

Not a good week for the FAA.

1 posted on 01/16/2023 2:21:57 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Almost a rear-end collision. Oops. I just homophobed.


2 posted on 01/16/2023 2:23:00 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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It would have been a broadside into the 777’s right side.


3 posted on 01/16/2023 2:26:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Don’t forget that the FAA went full DEI on hiring a couple years ago, this is just the fruits of their experiment.There will be More.


4 posted on 01/16/2023 2:26:45 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Rummyfan

Just looking at a slowed down monitor-image of that incident kind of takes your breath away. You know how huge those planes are. To be thatclose to smacking into one, had to be dreadful.

Somebody’s going to miss their next scheduled promotion.
It will be on their Permanent Record!


5 posted on 01/16/2023 2:28:18 PM PST by lee martell
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To: eyeamok

That could be an interesting point if it isn’t based entirely on speculation.


6 posted on 01/16/2023 2:29:02 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Good time to review "near miss" and "near hit."


7 posted on 01/16/2023 2:31:47 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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1000 ft isn’t that like the length of 3 football files laid end to end? thats a close call?


8 posted on 01/16/2023 2:33:34 PM PST by Jolla
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Right. Because there were no airline disasters when pilots and air traffic controllers were all white.

Do some Freepers even know how retarded they sound?

9 posted on 01/16/2023 2:36:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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1000 ft isn’t that like the length of 3 football files laid end to end? that's a close call?

When you have to slam on the brakes at 115 mph with tiny little wheels in a load 100ft long tube, yeah it is.
10 posted on 01/16/2023 2:37:24 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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Review of the tower instructions will tell whether American was told to hold short of the runway while Delta was taking off.

Or, worse, if Delta took off without clearance .


11 posted on 01/16/2023 2:40:40 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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https://vdare.com/posts/faa-lowers-standards-for-air-traffic-controllers-because-diversity

Then, during the Obama administration, activist bureaucrats decided that the pool of air traffic controllers wasn’t diverse enough. They never explained why diversity ought to matter in air traffic control or why it was more important than traditional goals like competence and public safety.

The FAA, without a vote, just scrapped the old hiring system and replaced it with a diversity-friendly version. Most people have no idea this happened.


12 posted on 01/16/2023 2:46:08 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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FWIW if you are interested (other thread linked below with video about incident), it appears that the pilot of the plane taxiing was at fault and the ATC caught it before it ended tragically.

Just saying. I can’t tell what “race” the ATC was and it does not matter one bit to me. He did good. Pilot of taxiing aircraft did bad. Pilot of the aircraft taking off appears to have reacted quickly to the CLEAR instructions of the ATC.

Not good, but the ATC deserves credit because that job is a stressfest and there is a lot to keep up with. Their system is best described as an antiquated mess (believe Trump said something similar).

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4123838/posts


13 posted on 01/16/2023 2:53:25 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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According to the FAA, air traffic controllers “noticed another aircraft crossing the runway in front of the departing jetliner” and canceled the aircraft’s takeoff clearance.

Plane I was on had to do a go-around while trying to land at London-Gatwick because another plane was on the runway.

Also, approaching Atlanta one rainy night, the pilot put the throttle full on and climbed like taking off. I looked down and saw another plane go directly under us, perhaps 100 feet below. Scary.

14 posted on 01/16/2023 2:54:15 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Right. Because there were no airline disasters when pilots and air traffic controllers were all white.
Do some Freepers even know how retarded they sound?

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controllers , of all colors, used to be hired on

Competancy

Now hired by quota.

I would call you a child, but you’re an adult ( with less than a child’s mind .. aka real retardation )

Such a tool.


15 posted on 01/16/2023 2:54:26 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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I hope folks are enjoying their cultural enrichment courtesy of the latest airline hiring policies.


16 posted on 01/16/2023 2:54:30 PM PST by ggrrrrr23456
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To: Col Frank Slade

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4123838/posts


Most likely cause discussed on this thread and you can watch the ATC Live video that shows positions of the planes. Barring something we don’t know about, the taxiing aircraft appears to have taken instruction for a different aircraft number and/or missed their turn and the sign that said runway.


17 posted on 01/16/2023 2:54:43 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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Wonder if my son has heard. I’ll send him the link ( he is captain on 737s for a different airline).


18 posted on 01/16/2023 3:03:46 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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To: Eleutheria5
“Almost a rear-end collision.”

Which reminds me…isn’t this another snafu on Mayor Pete’s watch?

19 posted on 01/16/2023 3:04:55 PM PST by daler
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To: Dr. Sivana

Flying out of SFO was in DC10 taking off to the north circa 89 We were getting up to speed when we went into full stop mode. The air brakes were up reverse thrust full braking with the plane hopping. While still rolling we pulled into one of the turnoffs. Looking to my right I saw a plane on the intersecting runway take off to the east. The copilot announced in a calm tone we would have to return to the hanger area for a brake check and refuel so our flight would be delayed two or so hours. Meanwhile on his open mike could hear what the pilot said to tower: what the f/?k are you trying to do kill us? He was really wound up. Apparently both had gotten or thought they had gotten take off clearance. Scariest take off I ever had and I’ve flown millions.


20 posted on 01/16/2023 3:07:28 PM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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