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UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?January 14, 2023 | Sundance | 3,434 Comments
Conservative TreeHouse ^ | 1/14/2023 | sundance

Posted on 01/15/2023 6:37:23 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.

First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.

In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.

The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.

In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.

There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.

If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.

Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.

I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.

Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.

Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.

Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.

As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.

Love to all,

Sundance

Reader feedback request. I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.

Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?

With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.

If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?

If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.

I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.


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To: Lockbox

“I liked the “no long-term testing” comment...... well it has gone under 2 year, long-term two year testing.”

2 years is short term and meaningless. Typical testing for vaccines is 10-12 years.


81 posted on 01/15/2023 8:20:50 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to se acure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: OKSooner
Recommended reading: “The Real Anthony Fauci”, by RFK Jr.

Robert Malone's book "Lie's My Government Told Me" is another good one.

82 posted on 01/15/2023 8:21:30 AM PST by Deaf and Discerning
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I don’t like Needles
Or Junkies!


83 posted on 01/15/2023 8:28:31 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I stole this from the comments.


84 posted on 01/15/2023 8:28:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Big Red Badger

And I’m following The SCIENCE!


85 posted on 01/15/2023 8:29:11 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Never vaxxed. Never tested. Never regretted it

Took the vitamins. Have Rx for Ivermectin.

I’m in my 80’s.

86 posted on 01/15/2023 8:31:00 AM PST by lonestar (Texan for Trumpit”s)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

1. I’m highly suspicious of any product in which the manufacturer has immunity.
2. I do not trust the bozos in government.
3. My body, my choice.


87 posted on 01/15/2023 8:31:56 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas")
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
WHY???? ...... Because the WHO, the CDC, Fraud Fauci and the MSM have totally failed people in this Covid BS!

There were "preventatives" out there, taking a little Vit. D3, Zinc, Magnesium regularly builds up your immune system to keep you healthy.

And there were "cures" out there. Ivermectin, L-Lysine, Hydroxychloroquine. YES THEY WORK!!

But for some reason the MSM worked with the CDC and the state health organizations in the US to block people from getting the info about those things and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES WERE LOST!

But thousands got rich off the vaccine stocks! - So SAD.

88 posted on 01/15/2023 8:34:28 AM PST by high info voter (Delivery )
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To: cgbg

Adding that the vaccines were put together in a matter of hours.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-designed-in-hours-one-weekend-2020-12?op=1

Yup.


89 posted on 01/15/2023 8:38:46 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom.”

And so is AI.

Next go-around there will be no valid reason not to roll up your sleeve. The only reason you could possibly have is if you are an enemy of the people.

And there are special medical facilities for them.

Sadly yet understandably, the disease really takes a toll on these facilities. Wipes the whole place out pretty regularly.


90 posted on 01/15/2023 8:41:50 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Melinda in TN
She slightly recovered from that one and had a worse stroke after the second shot. She passed shortly after that one. Yes, she was old, but had never had a stroke.

So sorry that you lost your mom! My mother is also in her 80s. She was extremely active up until she we had the vaccination. By the next day she had basically turned into an invalid with all sorts of problems. My dad also started having problems and ended up having to have heart surgery that may or may not be related to the “vaccines”. Thankfully my mother is still alive, and I attribute this to extreme stubbornness and the fact both of them refused to have any more jabs. But she certainly has a much lower quality of life.

91 posted on 01/15/2023 8:44:41 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: EBH

Dang, that’s exactly what I just said. You only had me by a couple hours though.


92 posted on 01/15/2023 8:44:46 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Sequoyah101; OKSooner

100% agree with you both. Not to mention, when was the last time something that worked so well needed to be “sold” to the public via:

Lottery winner for getting vax.
Free Bud Light for getting vax.
Payouts from municipalities for getting vax.
Gift Cards for getting vax.
Savings Bonds for getting vax.
Scholarships lottery for getting vax.
Free tickets to concerts / sporting events for getting vax.
Free Marijuana for getting vax.
Free Superbowl tickets lottery for getting vax.

Sorry. Homey don’t play dat.


93 posted on 01/15/2023 8:45:11 AM PST by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: 4Liberty

My husband’s doctor was a good friend - they had a screaming match in his office and his friend demanded that my husband ‘do his part and take the shot’.

Unbelievable.

My neighbor had covid and then insisted on getting the shot and boosters - even for her young son. Her arm swelled and turned blue and her son developed a tic immediately after the vac that lasts to this day.

I pointed out that she already had covid and had developed natural immunity but she notified me that ‘they don’t know how long that immunity lasts’. I told her God’s immunity was greater than Pfizer’s promises.


94 posted on 01/15/2023 8:45:18 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Melinda in TN

I am so sorry


95 posted on 01/15/2023 8:46:22 AM PST by combat_boots ( )
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To: TheElectionWasStolen

I am so sorry


96 posted on 01/15/2023 8:47:04 AM PST by combat_boots ( )
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To: Melinda in TN

General rule of life: If it’s mandatory, it is not likely to be good for you.

If it was good for you... it wouldn’t have to be mandatory.


97 posted on 01/15/2023 8:48:48 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: fireman15

I’m sorry to hear about your parents. That generation is stubborn about some things.

After Mom recovered some from the first small stroke, I asked her why she took the vax. She said, “I don’t want to get sick”. She still took the second shot.

Since they are old, doctors will never admit it might have been the vax. My husband is only five years younger than my parents were. He’s 84. I’m in my 60’s. He will listen to reason though, thank goodness!


98 posted on 01/15/2023 8:49:31 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Where are the FR vax defenders?????


99 posted on 01/15/2023 8:57:53 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Ever since I was in the service late 60’s early 70’s I have hated and mistrusted our government. Not our country mind you, just our corrupt morally bankrupt government. I think if younger people today could see how draftees and enlistees were treated during the Vietnam war they might realize what this war mongering government possibly has in store for them when their recruitment goals can’t be met. God forbid that we wouldn’t have enough cannon fodder to send to their deaths in some ungrateful and undeserving nation at the whim of totally incompetant, uncaring, asshole politicans, the defense industry, or the meglomanical global stratigists, while their kids sat at home with some kind of bullshit defferment.That pretty much sums up why I don’t follow government edicts about vaccines or anything else. Disclaimer, Although I did serve overseas during the Vietnam war I didn’t serve in country in Vietnam.


100 posted on 01/15/2023 9:01:50 AM PST by Clarancebeaks
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