Posted on 01/07/2023 1:49:10 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Ukraine ping
[They are recon vehicles with wheels and a big gun, not MBTs like Abrams, Leopard, Leclerc, Black Panther etc.]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1128_Mobile_Gun_System
From the weight alone, about half of the Bradley, itself a tracked version of an armored car, and only 1/3 heavier the M113, it’s clear the AMX-10 simply lacks the protection of a tank, and has barely enough protection to stop .50 cal bullets.
For some perspective, Shermans were 2x as heavy as the AMX-10, and they were vulnerable to the Mark IV tank’s 75mm gun, never mind the Tiger’s 88m gun. The T-72 has a 125mm gun.
Bottom line is that is the usual junkyard leavings dressed up as caviar from the French. Better than nothing, and possibly better target acquisition systems, but not exactly a game changer, except perhaps in terms of sheer quantity. From a budgetary perspective, it might actually be cheaper to ship this end-of-life equipment to Ukraine than to pay a salvage company to turn it into scrap.
Honorable Mr. Reaminator,
I’m asking a polite and easy question :
Do you want KGB-Russia and their Iranian Islamic war collaborators to win in the Ukraine war ?
OR...
Do you want Ukraine and their western Christian collaborators to win ?
We need to know where you stand. Otherwise you are a joke.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4090803/posts?page=30#30
Christian collaborators
That was a hundred years ago
Diversity now
Code word for Marx - satanistas
https://freerepublic.com/tag/by:mercyflush/index
globohomo satanistas.
Yes, I’m afraid you are right...
“They are recon vehicles with wheels and a big gun, not MBTs like Abrams, Leopard, Leclerc, Black Panther etc.”
The AMX-10RC is a 6 wheel armored car weighing less than 20 tons with frontal armor capable of stopping 23mm. It dates from before GW1. NOT A TANK.
Ukraine used older British Spartan CVRTs effectively during Kharkiv. The CVRT have have speed, low ground pressure, and a machine gun, and a infantry squad, no cannon or missiles. Armed infantry fighting vehicles and light tanks are valuable when most threats on the battlefield are not tanks.
The AMX-10's 105 mm F2 BK MECA L/47 has a muzzle velocity of 1400 M/S with APDSFS, maybe 100 to 150 m/s slower than the British L7 or US M68 105 mm used in the . Its maximum range to destroy Russian tanks is a little lower. Not as good as a 120 mm, still good enough most of the time. AMX-10s have been continuously upgraded to keep up with the times.
Video games don't count in real life.
Yes, it's labeled M-2 Bradley.
What's your point?
I needed a LAV with a crosshairs on it.
Thanks Zhang Fei.
Thanks Zhang Fei.
I’m just surprised France hasn’t surrendered already.
How do they do against Javelin missiles that the Russians may have come by recently.
Kiryandil “Russia’s economy has been falling apart for at least 7 years.”
Now that we can agree on. Ever since the first invasion of Ukraine in 2014.
And this latest misadventure has exacerbated the decline.
Kiryandil “shipping all our tax dollars”
Exaggeration.
$50 billion is far from the $4.05 Trillion in tax revenue the USA collected in 2021.
No, how the Ukrainians chased off you Russians from kherson.
Now Russia doesn’t have control of 2 capitals of the 4 oblasts it ran sham referenda in.
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