Posted on 11/24/2022 6:44:36 AM PST by RaceBannon
History of Plimmoth Plantation, 2 volumes, both in this post. You can download them for yourself . History of Plymouth plantation, 1620-1647 by Bradford, William, 1588-1657; Ford, Worthington Chauncey, 1858-1941, editor; Massachusetts Historical Society VOL 1 https://archive.org/details/historyofplymout1162brad/page/n1/mode/2up?q=Of+Plimouth+Plantation
History of Plymouth plantation, 1620-1647 by Bradford, William, 1588-1657; Ford, Worthington Chauncey, 1858-1941, editor; Massachusetts Historical Society VOL 2 https://archive.org/details/historyofplymout2162brad/page/n9/mode/2up?q=Of+Plimouth+Plantation
History of Plimmoth Plantation, 2 volumes, both in this post.
You can download them for yourself
.
History of Plymouth plantation, 1620-1647
by Bradford, William, 1588-1657; Ford, Worthington Chauncey, 1858-1941, editor; Massachusetts Historical Society
VOL 1
https://archive.org/details/historyofplymout1162brad/page/n1/mode/2up?q=Of+Plimouth+Plantation
History of Plymouth plantation, 1620-1647
by Bradford, William, 1588-1657; Ford, Worthington Chauncey, 1858-1941, editor; Massachusetts Historical Society
VOL 2
https://archive.org/details/historyofplymout2162brad/page/n9/mode/2up?q=Of+Plimouth+Plantation
One of my favorites: “Saints And Strangers” by Willison.
An interesting aspect of the history of the Massachusetts colony is that England was in great turmoil during those years of 1620 - 1647. The largest battle ever fought on British soil was Marston Moor in 1644 in the 1st phase of the English Civil War. Earlier the Puritan and Separatists movements in England brought about significant changes to traditional English culture and perspectives of the populace toward the monarchy. Between William Shakespeare’s death in 1619 and the beheading of King Charles in 1649 England had some cultural twists and turns that were felt in the Plymouth colony.
There are few Yankees in my family wood pile. Pilgrim Richard Warren is one of them.
Thanks for a new reason to celebrate thanksgiving. I’m looking forward to reading these books!
My 9th Great-Grandfather George Soule’s reproduced house is at Plimoth Plantation. I only found out about my relationship, and his house just before Covid hit. Still hoping to get there before I die. He came over on the Mayflower, and was a signer of The Mayflower Compact.
My family apparently had a few ancestors on the Mayflower.
The most interesting one was Stephen Hopkins and his family:
The Mayflower voyage:
Stephen Hopkins and his family, consisting of his wife Elizabeth and his children
Constance, Giles and Damaris, as well as two servants (Edward Doty and Edward Leister),
departed Plymouth, England, on the Mayflower on 6/16 September 1620.
The small, 100-foot (30 m) ship had 102 passengers and a crew of about 30–40 in extremely
cramped conditions.
By the second month out, the ship was being buffeted by strong westerly gales, causing the ship’s timbers to be badly shaken, with caulking failing to
keep out sea water, and with passengers, even in their berths, lying wet and ill.
This, combined with a lack of proper rations and unsanitary conditions for several months,
is attributed as what would be fatal for many, especially the majority of women and
children.
On the way there were two deaths, a crew member and a passenger, but the worst
was yet to come after arriving at their destination when, in the space of several months,
almost half the passengers perished in the cold, harsh, unfamiliar New England winter.[14]
On 9 November 1620 (O.S) (19 November 1620 (N.S.)), after about three months at sea,
including a month of delays in England, they spotted land, which was the Cape Cod Hook,
now called Provincetown Harbor.
After several days of trying to sail south to their
planned destination of the Colony of Virginia, strong winter seas forced them to return to
the harbor at Cape Cod hook, where they anchored on 11/21 November.
The Mayflower Compact
was signed that day.[15]:413[2]:7–19 The passengers of the Mayflower argued, as the
passengers of the Sea Venture had argued, that they had been freed from their indentures
to the Virginia Company, and could now choose their own governance.[11] Stephen Hopkins
was among the signatories.
In Plymouth Colony:
Hopkins was a member of the early Mayflower exploratory parties while the ship was
anchored in the Cape Cod area. He was well versed in the hunting techniques and general
lifestyle of the Native Americans from his years in Jamestown, which was later found to be
quite useful to the Pilgrim leadership.[7]:165[8]:62
The first formal meeting with the natives was held at Hopkins’ house, and he was called
upon to participate in early Pilgrim visits with the natives’ leader Massasoit. Over the
years Hopkins’ assistance to Pilgrim leaders such as Myles Standish and Edward Winslow
regarding his knowledge of the local languages was found to be quite useful.
I read that earlier on a different site, kewel
It's interesting to note that for many years I researched the 55th Massachusetts Infantry while I was working on my thesis. I never knew it at the time, but one of the Lieutenants was a Charles Soule, and is a collateral ancestor of mine.
“Post slavery reconciliation”?
Yet another reason to only read WikiBS when all else fails.
It was Post WAR “reconciliation” which really meant total prostrate submission to absolute military tyranny, a curious thing to call “reconciliation”.
“It was Post WAR “reconciliation”...In all the history books and research I did, it was called Reconstruction.”
Which was morally and politically indistinguishable from prostrate submission and tyranny
True. As a history buff who focused on the Civil War, in the early days, I chose not to take sides, but the more research I did, I realized, that if the Civil War occurred today, I would have been on the South’s side.
Pilgrim Elder William Brewster here.
You’re here all week, right. ;)
Well, they haven’t actually said anything about that. Me staying, I mean.
My family was split.
GGGrandfather left the South 8 years prior the war for mid-West. Many others already there as settlers.
Many others of course stayed behind in the South.
We had hundreds on the Southern side and about half as many on the Union side (I’m from that group). Some battles had cousins /uncles/nephews shooting at each other.
GGUncle was Reb paroled at Appomattox by Lee. He had to move West and North to Union relatives farms to avoid persecution under Reconstruction. After 1875 he went back.
My father heard tales of hardship under Reconstruction which came from grandparents, but they were nominally Northerners by then, and only heard about those things second hand from their parents.
The history is written by the victors of course. They justify their acts. But reality will come out. That’s happening now.
There are many cross currents in all of this, but it still defines whether the nation will continue to exist. Maybe the Original Sin will never be assuaged, and it all collapses.
If so, those who pursued force and intimidation to keep the marriage going will have no one to blame but themselves: relationships are consensual, or a disaster.
That was one thing that the Lee haters miss: he pointed out that he could not remain in a Union that was not by popular choice. It meant that the principle of a union based on free association had been broken. Lincoln said that made him a traitor, but I don’t think Grant ever agreed. They were two men of the same fabric, doing what they had to do. It was their relationship that ended the war. And unfortunately lesser men then either of them went on to impose draconian, un-democratic rules on their alleged co-nationals.
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