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Vanity Please define "Neocon"

Posted on 10/10/2022 8:46:26 AM PDT by Nik Naym

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To: piasa
The term refers to former communists who rejected communism when they grew up and embraced conservatism. Like former smokers, they became such strong anticommunists in their older years that their previous communist colleagues came up with the term in an effort to insult them for switching sides.

They still want to change the world, just not how Stalin was doing it.

41 posted on 10/10/2022 9:06:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: Nik Naym

Firstly, why connect the term NECON with anything Putin at all?

IMO, it is a more basic term unassociated with actual world leaders. Warmongers, monger, political schemers scheme. The MIC SELLS weapons. Politicians can be and are influenced by it every minute of the day whether it is for future enrichment later or potential political influence today.


42 posted on 10/10/2022 9:07:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Nik Naym

The neocons were Jewish Democrats who declared as “conservative republicans” in the last half of the 20th Century.


43 posted on 10/10/2022 9:07:15 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Neocon: Somebody who agrees with John McCain and Lindsey Graham that the debtor-nation US should borrow money from China to spend on pointless wars against Russia.


44 posted on 10/10/2022 9:07:33 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Nik Naym

Ex-communist warmonger who voted for Reagan in the 80’s and Obama and Biden now.


45 posted on 10/10/2022 9:07:40 AM PDT by Orosius (A)
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To: Nik Naym

A Bush.


46 posted on 10/10/2022 9:07:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: Robert DeLong

How come Bob Denver aged but Bill Kristol never does?


47 posted on 10/10/2022 9:08:38 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: NeverCheney

Finally somebody got it right.


48 posted on 10/10/2022 9:08:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Nik Naym
In practical political terms, a "neo-con" is someone who pushes for U.S. military intervention all over the globe, while pushing for open borders here in the U.S.

In short, a "neo-con" is a duplicitous, un-American @sshole.

49 posted on 10/10/2022 9:09:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: NeverCheney
Neocon: Somebody who agrees with John McCain and Lindsey Graham that the debtor-nation US should borrow money from China to spend on pointless wars against Russia

This, and someone, Democrat or Republican, who would vote for the likes of McCain and Graham.

50 posted on 10/10/2022 9:09:54 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Nik Naym

This is real easy. They espouse conservative values but believe in none. They speak them to get elected but vote for no conservative positions once elected. They are military-indutrial advocates who pretend to be conservatives to fool the stooges to get them to vote for them but are only for forever war using the blood of conservative patriot children and US Treasure to further their agenda. They HATE real conservatives, and use them as rubes to further their agenda.


51 posted on 10/10/2022 9:11:21 AM PDT by gracefullyparanoid
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To: Nik Naym

Old school democrats that came onboard during and after the Reagan Admin., you know the big tent types. They are still warmongering democrats that wear a little ‘r’ jersey. They are still saddled with many of their leftist traits like lying at the drop of a hat (for one). Go to any Uke/Russia war thread and they are the ones that demand war at any cost, and like Zelensky they demand the use of nukes on Russia. Just like Hillary/Biden/WEF/Soros etc.., they have a natural hate for Russia. They have no reverse gear. They all speak with one tongue. They are a miserable minority opinion with really fat mouths who think they are legion. They are the most ignorant to world events that I have ever run across. Their Grand Parents were democrats. Their parents were democrats. They are democrats. I hope that helps narrow it down a little.


52 posted on 10/10/2022 9:12:00 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: dragnet2

Neocon: Somebody who doesn’t care that American towns are becoming tent cities for homeless, but loses sleep over whether Russia or Zelensky controls a couple of small provinces in Eastern Ukraine that most Americans couldnt locate on a map and will never visit


53 posted on 10/10/2022 9:12:47 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Nik Naym
Here's two of them


54 posted on 10/10/2022 9:13:03 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Nik Naym
"Neocon" is a word that has changed over time. It has some continuity because in at least three cases, today's neocons are the children of the original neocons (Kristol, Podhoretz, Kagan).

In the 1960s and 1970s, neoconservatives or neocons were people who had been liberals or on the left who were critical of the effects of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs and the New Left. They were concerned with domestic, rather than foreign policy.

In the 1980s, neocon came to mean something like Cold Warrior, someone who supported Ronald Reagan's policy of taking a hardline with the Soviets. Some of the neocons actually thought that Reagan was too soft on the USSR.

By the early '90s the Cold War was over and Bill Clinton was making "moderate" New Democrat noises. Some of the original neocons had earlier rejoined the Democrats or joined them now. Others became Republicans. It was unclear at that point what would become of neoconservatism.

By the end of the decade neoconservatism became associated with the Project for a New American Century, and the dream of a powerful America democratizing the world. Neoconservatism wasn't associated with domestic policy anymore as it had been in the beginning.

In the Bush-Cheney years, neocons were riding high, but when their dreams didn't come true, they were disgraced. Today's neocons are pushing the powerful America "democratizing" the world dream again. This time against Russia. Neocon seems to mean interventionist or war hawk.

Generally speaking, they are anti-Trump or NeverTrump. Some may qualify as globalist. Others are too focused on American power to be wholeheartedly globalist, but they are closer to Biden than to Trump.

55 posted on 10/10/2022 9:13:06 AM PDT by x
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To: Nik Naym

Additional definition:

They want to make the world safe for:

—Perverts

—Kleptocrats

and they call it “democracy”.


56 posted on 10/10/2022 9:15:14 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Neocon: somebody who is brasses with the integrity of Ukraines border far more than the defense of America’s borders


57 posted on 10/10/2022 9:17:08 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Nik Naym

Neocon: Reincarnated Roman Senators at time of Julius Caesar.
That’s my take.


58 posted on 10/10/2022 9:21:18 AM PDT by VetoBill
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To: NeverCheney
What’s a neocon? Easy:

"An imperialist interventionist who is obsessed with what’s happening in foreign lands far more than what’s happening in America.

+1

For extra credit, review the related term Zeeper.

59 posted on 10/10/2022 9:21:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: NeverCheney

Excellent. You’ve defined the term neocon el perfecto.


60 posted on 10/10/2022 9:21:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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