Politician C was on videos at cross dressing parties, one of which ended with the suffocation of a man after the politician had just left the room after his turn.Sounds like bull-Schiff.
Posted on 09/16/2022 2:29:36 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
From bureau veterans to key lawmakers in Congress, the notion of an independent review is growing in urgency.
A half century ago, Americans held grave concerns that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI and other U.S. intelligence agencies had abused civil rights, improperly targeted enemies and illegally gathered evidence, so Congress set out on a great cleansing mission. It formed a special committee chaired by Idaho Sen. Frank Church that laid bare the wrongdoing, overhauled the bureau and created new guardrails to protect civil liberties.
A growing number of influential figures in Washington are arguing it's time for another Church Committee after a tumultuous six years in which the FBI admitted it misled the FISA court while spying on Donald Trump's campaign, had executives who lied, doctored evidence or usurped prosecutors' authority, and employed agents who dropped the ball on a sexual abuse scandal involving Olympians and overcollected evidence in a raid of a former president's home.
The revelation this week that the bureau secretly paid a Russian businessman as a confidential informant against Trump even though he was suspected of lying and having ties to the Kremlin's intelligence agencies only accelerated support for a sweeping, independent probe of the FBI now under the control of Director Christopher Wray.
"I think, frankly, it would be great for the FBI," Kevin Brock, the bureau's first-ever intelligence chief, said of the notion of a new Church Committee. "They find themselves obviously in a very challenging situation, some of which they brought on themselves, others kind of imposed upon them.
"But they find themselves in a place right now where well over the half the country believes they're working on behalf of one political party over another," he said during a wide-ranging interview with the John Solomon Reports podcast this week. "And that can't stand … the agency can't survive if that persists."
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Brock, a former assistant director who helped write the rules the FBI currently uses for informants, is a widely respected voice inside the bureau. But many outside it echo his support for a 21st century Church Committee or something like the 9/11 Commission that investigated the worst terror attacks in American history.
Former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, who helped unravel the false Russia collusion narrative, said the highly partisan tensions in Washington these days make it hard for a traditional congressional committee to do the sort of oversight it needs, citing examples of how Democrats thwarted his effort to probe FBI failures in the Russia case. He said that reality makes a blue ribbon commission or select committee a better option to investigate and reform the FBI.
"You know, we weren't really designed to run these types of investigations," said Nunes, recalling his time on the House Intelligence Committee. "And for so long, the process actually worked. It was relatively bipartisan for the most part. But when you have corruption at that level, it becomes so hard to run these investigations right.
"You have to ultimately have Congress involved doing a real investigation, and I think it's going to be very, very difficult if you use just the current committee structure that they have."
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the likely House Judiciary Committee chairman next year if the GOP wins control of Congress, supports the idea of a select committee like the one Church chaired, even if his panel does aggressive oversight on its own.
"I think that that exercise is definitely needed, whether it's done in a special select kind of committee or a blue ribbon commission," said Jordan, who himself has been contacted by five FBI whistleblowers in recent months alleging political manipulation of investigations and even crime data. "That's even maybe with some members outside of Congress."
"We need to seriously look at how this all has to change in a way that respects the liberties of the American people," Jordan said, adding he has increasing concerns about the influence that politically "woke" intelligence analysts are having inside the bureau in shaping allegations and investigations.
The Church Committee ultimately assembled some of the biggest names in the Senate, including three members who ran for president. All brought intellectual and political heft from both sides of the aisles in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and the end of the Hoover era. Figures like Walter Mondale, Howard Baker, Barry Goldwater, John Tower and Gary Hart were able to find consensus, issuing numerous volumes of reports that exposed intelligence death squads and civil liberty violations that included unlawful snooping and spying.
Ultimately, that committee's greatest contribution was a series of legal reforms that reined in the FBI and governed two generations of agents to color inside the lines after a dark history of past abuses.
"They pointed out a lot of these abuses and from that gave birth the attorney general guidelines, which the FBI still operates under today," recalled Brock, who joined the FBI in the aftermath of the Church Committee.
The new, post-Church guidelines "in stark terms stipulated how, and when an FBI agent can open up a case against a subject," Brock explained. "And those were great bumper pads that were put in place. Now the bureau knew, 'Okay, we can't go beyond these boundaries. We're safe as long as we stay inside these boundaries.' And it worked wonderfully for years."
Nunes said one reason outside forces are needed to press FBI reform is that its current leader, Wray, hasn't been willing to make the sweeping changes the public needs to restore trust, even if he has put in place some new reforms of tactics involving, for example, FISA warrants.
"We cannot trust after all this time, that Wray has done one damn thing to clean up this agency," Nunes said. "In fact, it's gotten worse. The American people know it's worse."
Whatever solution the next Congress chooses, the status quo is not an option, said Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee."We have to find out what is going on in the FBI," she told the "Just the News, Not Noise" show earlier this week. "I know a lot of people that work with the FBI are good, hard-working people. But there is a political cabal inside the FBI that has to be dealt with. It's inside the Department of Justice also."
Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.
The catch: Who is without sin to cast the first stone?
Politician A has a daughter whose fiance is a minister’s son and who will be reluctant to marry her when his father reads she had arrests for shoplifting and drug possession as a college freshman (cases suppressed) and was in a mental hospital for a month until medications got her out of serious illness.
Politician B was in on the profits from several shady military industrial complex deals where he benefited from faulty equipment that caused the deaths of soldiers but made millions for the company.
Politician C was on videos at cross dressing parties, one of which ended with the suffocation of a man after the politician had just left the room after his turn.
FBI relieved to hear “investigation canceled.”
Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.
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Indeed, the reform is to shutter the FBI. A national police force is a bad idea. it was corrupt from the get go with Hoover staying in power thru blackmailing government officials. The FBI has now grown in its abusive use of power to now deciding who should or should not be president.
>>Sorry, but the FBI, ATF, DEA, Ed Dept, Energy Dept, and a host of other federal bureaucracies need to be abolished; not reformed.
They need to be RICO’d like the criminal organizations that they are, and every single member, down to the guy that fetches the coffee, sent to federal prison.
I’m with you.
I agree. A reality show, “Out of Control Federal Government Agencies” would be a big hit too. It’s definitely time to start shutting them down. When a “Federal Government Contract Investigator” has time to make Botox commercials, you know something is worng.
Independent review headed by the January 6th committee.
Politician C was on videos at cross dressing parties, one of which ended with the suffocation of a man after the politician had just left the room after his turn.Sounds like bull-Schiff.
We need to make our case WITHOUT the abuses Trump faced. Half the populations eyes gloss over when we talk about Trump and the FBI, bring up all the other cases. Richard Jewell...ect there are TONS of abuses.
The establishment narrative is ...
Local Police BAD
Federal Police GOOD
... because you need a strong centrally controlled police force to foster and perpetuate a totalitarian terror state.
That's a great start. And we need a bunch of Guillotines.
Sorry, but nowadays, calls for committee hearings are just window dressing to give the impression of serious action, while nothing ever comes of it, no one is held accountable.
I’d rather see a strong chief executive (Ie: the President) make a major house cleaning of personnel and appoint an attorney general who will actually prosecute the criminals: eg: Clinton, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Sztrok, Page, the FISA liars, Lois Lerner, the Mueller team, all the cretins up and down the ranks who had a hand in repeatedly trying to frame a candidate and a sitting president. When people like these start serving serious jail sentences, you might just be able to get some of these agencies in line.
I agree...shut them down, and legally bar everyone who works in any of those agencies from any future government service.
Point taken.
Politician D had an affair with his intern, then head stomped her to death in his office. He hired a disgraced corrupt known fixer ME to report she bumped her head. He has since celebrated 10 years hosting a lucrative morning show on a major cable outlet.
Politician E had an affair with his intern, then hired a hit man to kill her while jogging in Ft. Marcy park.
Politician F had an affair with an intern, then hired a hit man to tie her up in the back room and execute her at the Starbucks she worked at in Georgetown.
Great examples.
All three can be found now in a friend’s luxurious mansion raising fine liqueurs in toasts before a millionaire’s servants serve a gourmet meal.
No orange clothes and cell block meat loaf and instant mashed potatoes for them.
The Church Committee is an excellent example of what happens when Congress tries to reign in the intelligence community.
(1) Nobody goes to jail.
(2) The intelligence agencies hire lots of lawyers to make sure they are in technical compliance with the law.
(3) The nasty stuff is shuffled off to new agencies or departments (which may themselves be secret).
(4) Compartmentalization and secrecy is increased until it is “safe” to bring the nasty stuff back into the old agency.
(5) What you are left with is an army of intelligence agency employees who have no idea about the bad stuff and can swear “nothing to see here”.
Total joke.
FBI has Corruption in their DNA...they need to be dismantled.
No probe needed. Just arrest them now.
EffBeeEye is left wing Communist militarized secret intelligence storm trooper operatives directed by Marxist Brandon Junta as primary attackers for this no longer Cold Vivil War.
They ruin their targets, complete economic and liberty assasinationof their target civilian victims.
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