Progressive and facts are like oil and water. They don’t share the same space.
You’d probably have better luck than with the leftist.
Your first mistake is in thinking that Progressive you know is a ‘friend.’ It is a mental disease, one for which there is no cure. To get down to their level of insanity is a dangerous undertaking.
Apparently not.
Burn it all down! Because I am not happy with the way reality is!
Destroy all of society, because I am not happy!
That will make it better!
Those are serious delusions, and a serious threat to all the rest of us.
Progressives like this are what Eric Hoffer described as “true believers.” They really do not care about getting the truth, and are impervious to rational thinking, critical judgment. For most of us, it is genuinely hard to accept that there is a significant population perfectly willing to deny the facts in front of them and instead support a fabricated narrative. Butt they exist, and this article presents a good example.
No, and neither can conservatives if it is about a subject they feel strongly about.
There are reasonable people who are amenable to facts, but in my experience they are small in number compared to everyone else who is not moved by facts.
Emotion is the most successful method of arguing, but it only works if you can put forth a sufficiently moving emotional argument.
The reason you can’t convince some Leftists is because they don’t reveal their real reasons.
“The reason is never the real reason. The real reason is always the Revolution”.
The Left needs for Antifa and BLM to feel safe on the streets while they loot, riot, and burn, otherwise they are less likely to show up. The left NEEDS their thugs to intimidate conservatives into silence. Kyle’s acts threatened that dynamic.
If you read the FBI declassified files on the Weathermen you will find they landed on the idea of using the blacks to cause dissention in the United States.
Obama has connections to the Weathermen. I’m sure this is all been the plan for years and is now so big it’s hard not to see the leaks.
Stemming from communists of course.
P4L
It is very hard, nearly impossible, to reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
Ping. Your tagline is looking more and more accurate, sadly.
NO !!!!!
Facts only matter to rational people that want to learn... Facts don’t matter to evil people that have an agenda.
Is this a trick question????
This has been on my mind for some time, this dichotomy we see regarding Leftists and Liberals.
I know many of these people personally, and am related to at least one like them who subscribes to their agenda.
These people are not stupid, though we (myself included) often ascribe this characteristic to them. How else to explain this weird mix of apparent ignorance, stupidity, laziness, arrogance, and stubbornness?
Many of these people are intelligent and accomplished in the sphere I know them in. (By choice and temperament, I generally don’t knowingly socially mix with Leftists at all, and Liberals to a minor degree.) But I interact professionally with many of them, spend time with them, and must retain positive professional and sometimes personal relationships with them.
I find them a puzzle, and I am not willing to explain their odd rejection of facts and reality with the excuses of stupidity and ignorance.
There is something to do with the mechanism of ideology that twists these usually intelligent people to dogmatically accept things that are simply and factually untrue, never mind things that are shaded in any degree of complexity and subject to rationalization.
It is this degree if ideologic adherence that baffles, concerns, and frightens me. I feel that we all hold the seed to this unsavory condition inside us in some degree (the condition that results in a disregard of fact coupled with a slavish adherence to form)
To me, there is something sinister and evil in the concept of something that will twist otherwise decent people into tyrants, or being supportive of tyranny.
I am open to suggestions and explanations, but it isn’t stupidity. It is something else.
They can only be convinced by death camps, as they are being dragged away.
Therefore, in the racially charged context of the Rittenhouse case, it does not matter whether or not self-defense was justified. Rittenhouse should be thrown in jail because that’s what would have happened to a black man in his position.
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This is simple to understand from liberal “logic”. In their world, there are no individuals. People are assigned to groups. You have no separate identity and no control over your life. Your existence is only a stand-in as a representative for “the group”. So punishment of “the group” is all that matters.
What the author misses is that the left and the right have two radically different views of what is justice. For the right it is justice for the individual. For the left it is justice for the group. This is the meaning of the term “social justice.” For the left the trial was never about the individual Kyle Rittenhouse, is was about the group to which he belongs, white America. For all forms of leftism, i.e. socialism, the goal is the redress of perceived injustice to the benefit of a favored group against an identified oppressor group. For the Marxists the favored group are the workers. For the Nazis the favored group were the ethnic Germans. For the present day leftists it is racial minorities. Justice for individuals in the favored or identified oppressor groups is of no concern. The only concern is the group. This is “social justice.”