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The John Birch Society v. We the People Part I (2020)
ArticleVBlog ^ | February 24th 2020 | Rodney Dodsworth

Posted on 11/21/2021 2:34:18 PM PST by Jacquerie

When it comes to its talking points, The John Birch Society (JBS) is thick with assertions and thin with evidence and history. For instance, the JBS regards the US Constitution as perfection on earth. This isn’t an exaggeration.1 The JBS simply disregards the Framers’ perception of their work.

Right out of the chute in 1788, Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 85 encouraged the remaining states outside the Union to ratify the Constitution and join their fellows in Article V to provide amendments that better secured some basic rights. The Constitution, he wrote, was not “absolute perfection,” but upon the whole, it was good plan, “the best that the present views and circumstances of the country will permit.” He went on:

To balance a large state or society, whether monarchical or republican, on general laws, is a work of so great difficulty, that no human genius, however comprehensive, is able, by the mere dint of reason and reflection, to effect it. The judgments of many must unite in the work; EXPERIENCE must guide their labor; TIME must bring it to perfection, and the FEELING of inconveniences must correct the mistakes which they inevitably fall into in their first trials and experiments.

The convention delegates from diverse societies did their best, yet didn’t expect their work to remain frozen in time. While the JBS finds perfection in our governing form today, it curiously doesn’t address the Constitution’s previous versions. Was it perfect in 1787? Was it imperfect after each successive amendment until it finally reached fulfillment with passage of the last amendment in 1992? The JBS doesn’t say.

Since the Constitution is without defects, the JBS certainly doesn’t think the unwashed people have any business fooling around with it. Forget that Declaration of Independence thing about the right of the people to alter their government. But some people are fooling around with the Constitution. Somehow the JBS neglects the unconstitutional and established habit of the Supreme Court to rewrite congressional laws and the US and State Constitutions. All law is the plaything of Scotus airheads who amend at-will. It is fair to say that thanks to our collective reluctance to exercise the gift of Article V, We the People do not only not exercise sovereignty, we’ve assigned it to Scotus.2

So, the question isn’t whether the Constitution will be amended; the question is, “by whom?” Through its silence, the JBS is quite comfortable with Scotus usurpations.

Unlike Scotus decisions, should the people ratify an amendment they later come to regret, they can repeal it. The 18th Amendment prohibition of alcohol was perhaps noble, but was ultimately unworkable and lasted only fourteen years until the 21st Amendment. We the People are powerless to rescind outrageous court decisions, court decisions so repulsive and egregious that even democrat congresses with concurrent democrat presidents didn’t dare attempt to ensconce into statutory law.

Despite the horrific consequences of an unaccountable judiciary, the JBS denies the applicability of Article V, asserting that, “Article V has specific purposes. It was never designed to rein in federal power but rather to correct errors in the Constitution.” This is a silly hair-splitting distinction.

In Federalist 43, we see through Madison that the Framers didn’t regard themselves as gods capable of crafting a perfect Constitution. Instead, “That useful alterations will be suggested by experience could not but be foreseen.” He noted that the Article V process was balanced; neither was it too easy nor too difficult which “might perpetuate its discovered faults . . . as they may be pointed out by the experience on one side (Congress), or on the other (States).

On June 11th 1787, Virginia’s George Mason said the plan “to be formed will certainly be defective,” and urged an amending provision that didn’t rely solely on Congress. On September 15th, an alarmed Mason repeated his earlier warning and said, “no amendments of the proper kind would ever be obtained by the people if the Government should become oppressive, as he verily believed would be the case.” So, if Madison’s and Mason’s comments are a guide, the use of Article V wasn’t limited to correcting defects, but also to deal with oppression, such as the exercise of sovereignty by Scotus.

JBS disregards the importance of governmental structure. To paraphrase James Madison, if men were angels, . . . a single legislative house of government, without a president or judiciary, would suffice. If all that mattered were the people comprising government, then the Articles of Confederation should have been a resounding success. After all, the greatest republican statesmen in history attended the Confederation Congress. What happened? Why was the confederation a disappointment? After all, the confederation had powers similar to those in the Constitution especially in the matter of obedience to Congressional resolutions. From Article XIII, “Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled . . . ,“ yet the states often ignored congressional determinations.

In Federalist 38, Madison put a fine point on the matter of the composition, the particular form of government, “All the dangers from a defective construction of the supreme government of the Union seem to be realized.” The appointment or election of virtuous men to the confederation government was inadequate to secure liberty.

The JBS doesn’t consider man’s inherent shortcomings and that only the Framers’ structure of government, including a Senate of the States, provides the necessary inherent checks through self-interest. Popularly elected senators, like their House colleagues, must cozy up to the democratic element, the passions of the people. The 17th Amendment was purposely designed to render the senate simpatico and congruent with the House of Representatives. It worked.

On the other hand, pre-17th presidents didn’t nominate radical progressive lawyers to the federal bench. Why bother? Senators in the employ of state legislators covetous of federalism could hardly be expected to consent. This problem, of answering to popular passions, just wasn’t a problem when senators answered to state legislators. Just as ratification conventions reversed the 18th Amendment, We the People can do the same to the 17th.

As for the JBS’ perceived unfitness of We the People to correct our governing form and to participate in self-government at all, who is the JBS to look down their noses and judge when the sovereign people may exercise their God-given right, as they see fit, to frame their government? I say the months leading to a Convention of States after a (probably court-ordered) congressional call may be the necessary spark that further awakens the public, the same public that dumped the Establishment in 2016, and reinvigorates appreciation for first principles.


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To: HighSierra5

There WERE anti-communist LAWS until the 1950’s.


21 posted on 11/21/2021 4:44:56 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith
There WERE anti-communist LAWS until the 1950’s.

And they were supported by Democrats. Judge Harold Medina, a prominent Democrat, presided over the sensational 1949 trial of several Communists charged with violating the Alien Registration Act, aka the Smith Act (they were convicted), and liberal Senator Hubert Humphrey voted for the Communist Control Act of 1954.

22 posted on 11/21/2021 4:49:14 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Jacquerie

In the 1970’s and 1980’s, the JBS, for some reason, was cool, and at times even hostile to the Reagan movement, which alienated it form many grass-roots conservatives. Also, for some reason, they were hostile to Rush Limbaugh, and the New American, their house organ, ran a couple of articles denouncing Rush. They also feuded with conservative publisher and polemicist William F. Buckley in a rhubarb that dated back to the early sixties.

However, today the JBS is on the Trump train and is at one with the MAGA crowd on issues such as Amendment Two, mask and vaccine mandates, election fraud, border security, and so on.


23 posted on 11/21/2021 4:56:57 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Jacquerie

Based on our 100-year history of frittering away our rights to freedom & liberty that were originally protected in the final Constitution, this author, and all of us, are not in a very favorable position to criticize JBS...


24 posted on 11/21/2021 5:04:41 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: ChessExpert

The owners of the mainstream media are the problem with the mainstream media.

They are who they are.


25 posted on 11/21/2021 5:06:19 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Jacquerie
When it comes to its talking points, The John Birch Society (JBS) is thick with assertions and thin with evidence and history.

Really, Rodney? Do tell.

26 posted on 11/21/2021 5:07:33 PM PST by sauropod (Meanie Butt Daddy - No you can't)
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To: Jacquerie

JBS has been saying for years that Marxist doctrine has been leaking into textbooks in schools.


The point that the author gets wrong is that Madison promised delegates from states like NY that he would get a Bill of Rights into the Constitution. They were mostly concerned about the Judiciary [see the antifederalists]. Madison’s argument AGAINST a Bill of Rights consisted of the notion that the national government could only do that which was expressly ENUMERATED, and no more. Madison’s second concern was that in adding a Bill of Rights, later generations might think that the only rights people had were those protected in the Bill of Rights. Hence, the 9th and 10th Amendments were added. The Bill of Rights doesn’t mean that these are the only rights of the people, but that those rights listed, are the very least of the rights that people have. The Constitution limits the government, not the people.

The Constitution was amended because there was a promise to the antifederalists in states like NY, that some further protections would be provided. Most states, then and now, have Bill of Rights in their state constitutions.


Last note, if I’m correct, I believe that letter George Mason wrote had a response from George Washington. If I’m correct, GW publicly rebuked GM in a letter and many people disregarded GM after that.


27 posted on 11/21/2021 5:18:01 PM PST by GeorgianaCavendish (Man shall not serve two masters, for he will love one and hate the other.)
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To: ChessExpert

Um, no. JBS always had many prominent Jews at all levels that were pretty vocal about it. Birchers never got into the “J- Conspiracy” thing.


28 posted on 11/21/2021 5:51:28 PM PST by Bethaneidh
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To: Bethaneidh

Thanks for the info.


29 posted on 11/21/2021 6:16:06 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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To: Bethaneidh
The American Constitution is, so far as I can see, the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given time by the brain and purpose of man.

William Gladstone, 4 time British Prime Minister in the 19th century

30 posted on 11/21/2021 6:20:41 PM PST by Robwin ( )
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To: cgbg

It does not help that journalism schools are (I’m told) very liberal.

There is probably an element of self-selection. If you want to earn a living, become an engineer or business major. If you want “to change the world” become a journalist.


31 posted on 11/21/2021 6:24:43 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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To: ChessExpert

The owners of the mass media are business people, not graduates of journalism schools.

Find some new excuses for them...keep trying....


32 posted on 11/21/2021 6:27:21 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

I don’t have to. My claims stand as valid.


33 posted on 11/21/2021 6:29:29 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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To: ChessExpert

Read and learn:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2016/06/01/these-15-billionaires-own-americas-news-media-companies/


34 posted on 11/21/2021 6:32:30 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Maybe I will. One thing is evident, you can’t make your own arguments. You’ve got some learning to do too, but not enough time, even if you had the will.


35 posted on 11/21/2021 6:34:16 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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To: ChessExpert

I take it you identified all the journalism majors among the billionaire media owners—congrats!


36 posted on 11/21/2021 6:37:36 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: sauropod

<>Really, Rodney? Do tell.<>

Try reading before posting. Sheesh.


37 posted on 11/21/2021 7:05:46 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Fiji Hill

humphrey was rewarded by being a vice president.


38 posted on 11/21/2021 7:30:37 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: ChessExpert
I once received literature from an anonymous source. JBS? In any case, I read it. It emphasized Jewish influence in the press.

That could not have been from the JBS, which is vehemently opposed to Judeophobia. And they do not distribute anonymous literature.

39 posted on 11/21/2021 7:39:18 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: cgbg

I don’t need to. Review our exchanges and try to reason.


40 posted on 11/21/2021 7:55:40 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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