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A Reason to Be Vaccinated: Freedom
Desiring God ^ | October 19, 2021 | John Piper

Posted on 10/23/2021 10:03:32 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

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To: grumpygresh

>> There is really no upside for those under healthy under 40

Exactly. The case fatality for those less than 40 YO is extraordinarily negligible.


41 posted on 10/23/2021 11:25:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: JudgemAll

>> a corporate precept to make people believe

And it’s unrelenting...


42 posted on 10/23/2021 11:28:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Where do you stand regarding aborted and murdered babies being sacrificed and used for these injections Mr. Piper? Are you suggesting Christians partake in something that is the end result of the murder of the innocent?

"And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood." ~ Psalm 106:38

43 posted on 10/23/2021 11:29:14 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: DoodleBob

His presentation is euphoric, but his pro-vax intentions are glaringly obvious.


44 posted on 10/23/2021 11:32:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Grimmy

+1


45 posted on 10/23/2021 11:37:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Piper is a woke liberal. Stay far away from this man. Any christian who is ok with the use of an aborted fetus just so they can live for another day is no christian in my book


46 posted on 10/24/2021 12:09:09 AM PDT by roving
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To: Bob434

“...that they have been unduly influenced by others who have an agenda.”

He needs to look in the mirror. The cognitive dissonance is simply stunning.


47 posted on 10/24/2021 12:26:37 AM PDT by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: Grimmy
"The Cool Aid wont work unless we all take it.
- Jim Jones."
Needed repeating. Though Jones was an atheists/communist. Some of his disciples where Feinstein, Pelosi and Hillary
48 posted on 10/24/2021 12:56:48 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: CheshireTheCat

i have GOD given freedom

the govt wants to take it away

tyranny


49 posted on 10/24/2021 12:58:09 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Arbeit Der impfstoff macht frei.
50 posted on 10/24/2021 1:01:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (You are not a horse, you are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Franklin Graham would essentially say the same thing!
Are all of you here......and yes I have read your insulting responses......going to tear into, dismiss and cancel him too!

I’ve been vaccinated also.....which, , according to some of you, I’m now the lowest form of life !
My vaccination does not negate my Christianity or dedication to saving unborn babies......
...and you don’t get to define me as such.

I’ve been on this forum over 20 years and I am sorry to see FR resorting to hatred and ugly name calling over a vaccination status or cancelling a pastor who stated his case......not commanded, not demanded......just stated, encouraged.....
I’m disgusted, discouraged and disappointed in what I witnessed here.


51 posted on 10/24/2021 1:08:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Where’s the freedom? You have to get masked up, get boosters shots every 6 months for the rest of your life probably. I fail to see freedom as the final end result, unless that freedom means an earlier death than you would have experienced otherwise.


52 posted on 10/24/2021 1:10:57 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: grumpygresh

There have been several US (suppressed) Indian and Israeli studies showing that the vaxes mess up natural immunity. Most have been retroactive studies which show recovered don’t get it again very often (very small %) and when they do they are largely asymptomatic. Add a vax and their numbers closely mirror the vaxed. Additionally, antibody titers continued to increase over time for just recovered (8 month study). Not so with the recovered vaxed... their titer numbers peaked and then precipitously dropped up to 40% a month. Just recovered in one study showed to have an interferon mediated response to exposure. Vaxed and vaxed recovered do not.


53 posted on 10/24/2021 1:31:17 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: wannabegeek

Bookmark


54 posted on 10/24/2021 3:02:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: CheshireTheCat

OK, I get it, I’m free. Therefore I’m free to say “no” to the clot shot.


55 posted on 10/24/2021 3:58:10 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (I)
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To: CheshireTheCat

heres is the bulk of a post i made over at the Q thread.It expalsins why so many do not trust the vax.
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4004828/posts?q=1&;page=1751
We have bio-weapons posing as vaccines. There are so many of them in play we can’t keep track of them. Worse yet they were devised by those who were able to hide the true ID of what they actually do through the use of massive amounts of graphene and other methods.
There are those that think the graphene can be activated by a variety of means everything from G5 waves to other devices using similar tech.

Also some of the “vaccines” have the ability to degrade immune systems with ordinary medical teams not figuring out what is going on. All they see are organ destruction,heart attacks in other wise healthy people,cancer re-occurring after it was in remission, blood clots gone wild, women with menstrual cycles re-starting after menopause,women with miscarriages in extremely high percentages and on and on and on.

What keeps those medical types from complaining is constant pressure by govt. not to. and massive confusion due to number of different vaxs out there from fake placebos to bio-weapon virus’ as deadly as they come.


56 posted on 10/24/2021 4:03:21 AM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: CheshireTheCat

John Piper, please address whether it is appropriate for the government to force citizens to succumb to a vaccine via a mandate. Is it acceptable for the government to violate people’s free will in this manner?

John Piper, your article almost completely omitted the fact that many people have either died or been maimed by the vaccination. Why did you not speak to this in any detail?

John Piper, your article strongly implies that those refusing the vaccination are doing so primarily on ideological grounds yet fail to speak of the strong and ominous ideological pressure to submit to the vaccination. Why?

John Piper, do you recognize that natural immunity is superior to vaccination? Is this not a valid reason to reject the vaccination?

John Piper, you carefully omit discussion of vaccine passports as a means of government submission, regardless of free will. Why?

John Piper, you previously advocated that Donald Trump was not worthy of political support due to his moral failings. Have you, to any real public extent, written about reasons to protest or withhold support of Joe Biden or any other elected Democrat based upon well documented moral failings and their ongoing support for overtly harmful sinful public policies? Why or why not?


57 posted on 10/24/2021 4:33:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (Truth is treason in an empire of lies.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Very True. I was reading Franklin Graham’s devotional reminding us that Paul spoke against what he once was.. a zealous persecutor of Christians on behalf of his intellectual knowledge of God. Romans 10. Knowledge versus communion.. still a big church problem. Piper, well no comment.


58 posted on 10/24/2021 4:38:51 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: momincombatboots

And Graham came out at the beginning of this mess saying that everyone should be vaccinated. Lost some respect for him, considering that the free will of man is a tenet of Christianity.


59 posted on 10/24/2021 4:42:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his And cohort)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Unfortunately...there’s not a comment section there so I can tell this guy to go Joe Biden himself.


60 posted on 10/24/2021 4:50:13 AM PDT by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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