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Useless Green Energy Hitting The Wall
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 13 Oct, 2021 | Francis Menton

Posted on 10/14/2021 3:37:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber

In the field of litigation settlements, people sometimes talk about a “win, win” scenario — a settlement structure where both sides can get some advantage and simultaneously claim victory. By that criterion, what is “green” energy (aka intermittent wind and solar power)? The public pays hundreds of billions of dollars of subsidies to get the things built, and in return it gets: sudden shortages and soaring prices for coal, oil, gas and electricity; and dramatically reduced reliability of the electrical grid, leading to periodic blackouts and risks of many more of same; and despite it all fossil fuel use doesn’t go down. It’s a “lose, lose, lose.”

As the world comes out of the pandemic and the international economy returns to attempting to fulfill normal consumer demand, you can see green energy hitting the wall pretty much everywhere you look. It’s just a question of which data points you want to collect for a day’s entertainment.

The current energy crisis in Europe and Asia is of course getting next to no coverage in the U.S. media. But over at Bloomberg News they have a big story on October 4. That’s Bloomberg News as in Mike Bloomberg — the man with four private jets and at least ten houses who devotes his public life to hectoring you to cut your “carbon footprint.” But now suddenly the Bloomberg News people seem to have figured out that periodic energy crises are an inevitable consequence of increasing reliance on the undependable wind and sun. The headline of the article is “Global Energy Crisis Is the First of Many in the Green Power Era.” The Bloomberg piece itself is behind paywall, but extensive excerpts can be found at Climate Depot here, where they call it a “moment of clarity”:

The next several decades could see more periods of energy-driven inflation, fuel shortages and lost economic growth as electricity supplies are left vulnerable to shocks.. . . . The world is living through the first major energy crisis of the clean-power transition. It won’t be the last. . . . Wind and solar power production have soared in the last decade. But both renewable sources are notoriously fickle -- available at some times and not at others. And electricity, unlike gas or coal, is difficult to store in meaningful quantities. That’s a problem, because on the electrical grid, supply and demand must be constantly, perfectly balanced. Throw that balance out of whack, and blackouts result.

No kidding.

Meanwhile, the latest place to get hit with blackouts due to an unreliable grid is China. (Previous rounds of blackouts traceable to over-reliance on unreliable wind and/or solar power have hit South Australia in 2016, California in 2020, and Texas in February this year.). From the New York Times, September 27:

Power cuts and even blackouts have slowed or closed factories across China in recent days, adding a new threat to the country’s slowing economy and potentially further snarling global supply chains ahead of the busy Christmas shopping season in the West. The outages have rippled across most of eastern China, where the bulk of the population lives and works.

But didn’t the same New York Times just tell us on October 8 that China is “the world leader” in both solar power and wind power? Somehow, neither of those seems to help when electricity demand suddenly ramps up. Just yesterday the Guardian reported that the recent power chaos is causing China to re-emphasize what they call “energy security,” which the Guardian takes to mean fossil fuels, particularly coal:

China plans to build more coal-fired power plants and has hinted that it will rethink its timetable to slash emissions. . . . In a statement after a meeting of Beijing’s National Energy Commission, the Chinese premier, Li Keqiang, stressed the importance of regular energy supply, after swathes of the country were plunged into darkness by rolling blackouts that hit factories and homes. While China has published plans to reach peak carbon emissions by 2030, the statement hinted that the energy crisis had led the Communist party to rethink the timing of this ambition, with a new “phased timetable and roadmap for peaking carbon emissions”. . . . “Energy security should be the premise on which a modern energy system is built and and the capacity for energy self-supply should be enhanced,” the statement said.

Over in the UK, somebody has now finally taken the time to do a calculation of how much it would cost to provide sufficient battery storage to get the country through an extended (ten day) period of dark and calm in the winter, assuming a grid relying 100% on wind and solar generation. The calculation has been made by Professors Peter Edwards and Peter Dobson of Oxford University, and Gari Owen of Annwvyn Solutions, on behalf of Net Zero Watch, which is a project of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. (Full disclosure: I serve on the board of the American affiliate of this organization.). The answer that Edwards, Dobson and Owen come up with is approximately 3 trillion British pounds. For comparison, UK GDP in 2020 was just under 2 trillion British pounds. And if you look at the Edwards/Dobson/Owen calculation, you will realize that they assume zero loss of energy on the round trip into and out of the batteries. That’s rather a favorable assumption, given that in practice an all-wind-and-solar system would need to store power all the way from the summer to the winter. What percentage of your cell phone’s battery charge is left if you leave the device unplugged on the shelf for six months? But then, it’s all fantasy anyway, so what does it matter?

And finally, the Department of Energy’s Energy Information Agency has just (October 6) come out with its annual International Energy Outlook. This is the sage projection of our wisest gurus of how the production and consumption of energy will change over the three decades from now until 2050. Surely then these guys will show us how the world will achieve the true path to Net Zero carbon emissions within that time frame, if not much sooner.

OK, then, here is the key chart:

Wait a minute! Could they really be saying that, rather than being on a path to oblivion, all major fossil fuel categories (petroleum, natural gas and coal) will continue to see increased usage right on through 2050, and with no indication that any decline will have begun even then? Yes, that is exactly what they are saying. Indeed the projected increases in consumption of two of those fuels are quite dramatic — up in the range of 50% for natural gas and 40% for petroleum. Yes, so-called “renewables” are projected to increase dramatically; but after thirty years of this, they will still, according to EIA, provide only about 25% of “primary energy consumption,” which is less than petroleum alone, and barely a third of the combined contribution of petroleum, natural gas and coal.

But don’t worry, prices for gasoline and electricity will increase by a multiple, and we’ll have regular blackouts.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism

1 posted on 10/14/2021 3:37:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
Watch Europe this winter, it is our future if we don't stop listening to leftist's insane ideas. Germany just decommissioned it's last three nuclear power plants even with the looming crisis clearly in view. They are stupid enough to trust that Putin won't turn off the natural gas pipeline. The Bidet regime would love to have us in such a crisis and they are working hard to make it happen.
2 posted on 10/14/2021 3:38:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

This is a projection....and worthless. It’s a wannabe.


3 posted on 10/14/2021 3:42:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

This winter will determine the outcome of the midterms, or it will give the democrats a better idea where they need to cheat the most.


4 posted on 10/14/2021 3:44:51 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: MtnClimber

The grid has got to go.


5 posted on 10/14/2021 3:55:08 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: MtnClimber

40 years ago China had unreliable power and the West had power with excellent reliability.

Now, with China building massive numbers of coal plants and the West tearing down massive numbers of coal plants...hard to envision anything other than us swapping positions with China when it comes to reliable power.


6 posted on 10/14/2021 4:15:51 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: MtnClimber

France built 90% of its nuclear energy grid in one ten year period.

30 years later, nuclear still supplies 70% of French electricity.


7 posted on 10/14/2021 4:29:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: MtnClimber

“Germany just decommissioned it’s last three nuclear power plants”

Hope the chart is wrong about nuclear. That or pie-in-the-sky fusion, are the future of green energy.


8 posted on 10/14/2021 4:42:47 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: MtnClimber

Oh, just wait until all those electric cars, trucks and busses are plugged in for recharge at the same time on a cold, dark, rainy, snowy winter evening.


9 posted on 10/14/2021 5:10:23 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will!)
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To: MtnClimber

Most people have no concept of energy density. I recently watched a video where someone had the bright idea of storing energy by putting a 55-gallon drum on his roof, using a solar cell to pump water up there during the day, and harvesting the potential energy of the water at night by letting it drain to spin a turbine.

The total energy he was able to get? The same as what you’d get from a single alkaline AA battery.


10 posted on 10/14/2021 5:16:43 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Time to fly the other black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: MtnClimber

the latest place to get hit with blackouts due to an unreliable grid is China.


China’s blackouts have noting to do with shortages. but rather to do with typical CCP management: fix a problem with a worse solution. There was an oversupply of coal ; the CCP solution? Order coal production quotas to be lowered. They burned through the coal piles and there was no supply to replenish them. Shortage, blackouts.

Moreover, the CCP management of China’s coal mines has been terrible. Mines are collapsing, miners are being killed. So now they have to go after the mine owners and managers which means some mines are entirely shut over safety concerns.

The mines that are not shut cannot get their coal out because flooding has washed out bridges and roads.

Perfect storm.


11 posted on 10/14/2021 6:04:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Windcatcher

Decades ago

hen California had sane honest leaders in Sacramento,,

The greatest “ battery” to store electricity project was undertaken.

Resivours
Water

But the dishonest and insane took over

Tearing out dams and draining resivours as fast as their little watermelon commie hands could.

When that didn’t cripple our state fast enough they just opened the spillways of those dams and drained the water from the resivours as fast as they could using fish as a fig leaf to cover their commie deindustrialization duplicity.

Shasta resivour had 7 years water supply gained in one heavy snow and rain year , and Newsome let the greenies piss it away in one year.

( maybe he has a financial stake in green energy or chicom batteries )

Stored water is the best battery ever invented, but try telling the regressive who call
themselves “ progressives” that.


12 posted on 10/14/2021 6:15:16 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Windcatcher

Great comparison. Thanks.


13 posted on 10/14/2021 6:54:09 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: MtnClimber
“The public pays hundreds of billions of dollars of subsidies to get the things built, and in return it gets: sudden shortages and soaring prices for coal, oil, gas and electricity; and dramatically reduced reliability of the electrical grid, leading to periodic blackouts and risks of many more of same; and despite it all fossil fuel use doesn’t go down. It’s a “lose, lose, lose.”

This is exactly what the wind and solar scam was designed to do from day one. Green energy is a commie plot designed for one purpose and that is to make electricity scarce and expensive. It’s communism, pure and simple.

14 posted on 10/14/2021 7:12:12 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: MtnClimber

your electric bill will rival your mortgage for your largest monthly expense

but have no fear, the FEDGOV is here

Electric subsidies for everyone

Now we are all on welfare

Who will vote to cut govt spending then?


15 posted on 10/14/2021 7:14:01 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: MtnClimber

I expect that soon deaths of the elderly due to the effects of hypothermia will exceed deaths of the elderly due to COVID-19.


16 posted on 10/14/2021 8:14:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ
I expect that soon deaths of the elderly due to the effects of hypothermia will exceed deaths of the elderly due to COVID-19.

Yes. And they will blame "Global Warming" instead of the failure of "Green Energy".

17 posted on 10/14/2021 9:27:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

It is, the worst of all worlds. Higher cost with less reliability.

Wonderful. Just wonderful.


18 posted on 10/14/2021 10:14:10 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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