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Is it possible that the enforced vaccinations are "the mark of the beast"?
original to Free Republic | Aug 22, 2021 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 08/22/2021 1:34:48 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell

This is the question that may be partly responsible for vaccine hesitancy -- those who believe that the last days may be imminent are reluctant to take on the "mark of the beast."

I think the general context is fairly well known. A seven headed, ten horned "beast" arises in the last days, is assisted by various other figures, makes an alliance with a great red dragon, and enforces a "mark" to be taken in the hand or forehead that is required for participation in the beast's "reign of antichrist" society.

The vaccine qualifies in some estimations because you can have a piece of paper (in your hand) or knowledge (in your forehead) of vaccination, using this as your passport to participate fully in the current society.

Moreover, the modern globalist society seems to approximate the seven headed beast. It has certainly made alliances with the dragon, and is assisted by another beast in the image of a lamb (our mainstream media).

Looking into this further, I discovered that seven heads and ten horns is not just symbolic. The G7 countries would represent seven heads. Ten horns was a bit more complicated, but I realized that a horn was probably a leader (in other Biblical prophecy this is also the case), so looking at the seven member states of the G7, four are republics (and have one leader or horn), and three are constitutional monarchies and have two (an elected prime minister and a sovereign monarch). Remember Japan is one of those with an imperial family. Britain and Canada, you might object, share the same "horn" but in constitutional terms the Canadian head of state associated with the monarchy is our home-grown governor general, not the Queen. So it does add up to ten.

Also, the beast was said to have a deadly head wound that it "miraculously" recovered from. This can best be explained as follows: when the beast emerged from the sea (with the alliance in place with the dragon), the U.S. head was wounded because Trump was the president. He was anti-globalist. Now the U.S. head from the perspective of the beast's many followers is healed up with a globalist administration (fraudulently) empowered.

This is also significant to the timing aspect. It is said that the beast would have authority for 42 months. Clearly that cannot have begun before Trump was first elected. But I mentioned that in this analysis, the beast emerges from the sea during Trump's presidency. When might that have been? Possibly around early to mid 2018, when Chairman Xi consolidated absolute power in China, and when globalists were openly musing about global pandemics and population culling strategies at their annual meetings in Davos and the Bilderberg. I would say that January 2019 is about the last date I would assign, therefore we are somewhere in the last third of the 42 months now.

So therefore, is the vaccination business the literal fulfilment of the prophecy, and are we therefore commanded to remain unvaccinated? What about good and faithful people who either never thought about this and got vaccinated, or thought about it and decided it was better to take the chance? I have no insight into answers to these difficult questions, but would hope that faith will prove both an antidote to the harms that might lie ahead, or the judgement that might be possible.

It does pose more of a dilemma to a person like myself who is not by nature an anti-vaxxer in general, but on this one particular issue very hesitant and reluctant even before I factor in the issues related to eternal life.

It is stated in the same prophecy that Christ (or a Christ-like figure) returns with the onset of judgements against the beast, those who took the mark of the beast, and various other types of judgements of the end times.

Can we expect something like this at the end of the 42 months? Is that soon, or further away? Will not taking a vaccine expose us to harm, either from disease, or from a vengeful mob losing patience with us and being urged on by governments and the mass media to take out their frustrations on us? I heard on the local news that a survey shows (in my jurisdiction) 77% have "compassion fatigue" for the unvaccinated. I don't recall asking for compassion, I think they mean they don't care if we live or die and wouldn't go out of their way to offer medical care to the unvaccinated. The survey also claims that this number rises to 83% of the fully vaccinated (obviously the unvaccinated are largely compassionate towards their fellow unvaccinated). This is against a claim of 78% full vaccination (but in rural areas of my province the numbers are closer to 50-50).

My inclination was to remain unvaccinated just on the facts alone but with the added proviso that I would now be knowingly taking on the mark of the beast for my own convenience, it changes the dynamics of the decision for me. How about you (if unvaccinated, or faithful and vaccinated?) ... how do you see this? Will there be greater persecution and social ostracism coming our way? Will it get to the point of interfering in our ability to lead any sort of normal existence?

I think my decision is to withdraw from the society, which may include by necessity reducing ties with family and associates, and wait it out, until either the Biblical prophecy is fulfilled or at least the mass social delusion aspects fade away and the thing becomes a footnote of history perhaps.

This is perhaps easier for me, I am retired and not that involved in many social activities but I can see trouble looming on the family front if I make a very definite point of this (and as you can guess, I would, especially if pushed).


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Religion
KEYWORDS: 1trumpvaccine; believeanythingcrowd; bible; covid; covid19; covid1984; livinginfear; mark; markofthebeast; notthemark; prophecy; vaccine; vaccinepassport; vanity
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To: Pollard

Your idea should be repeated. I’ve toured Europe and spoke to people about American culture. I’ve spoken to those in Australia, New Zealand and a few people here and there. Not one can even fathom us. What they call “freedom”is doing what the government specifically says they can do.

They have been conditioned. We’re now being conditioned. For the last 40 years 2 generations of Americans have been made compliant and docile.


61 posted on 08/22/2021 3:33:02 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Peter ODonnell

Its not the mark. Everyone will know its the mark when it comes. It may be a prelude of things to come.


62 posted on 08/22/2021 3:34:48 PM PDT by roving
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To: Peter ODonnell

Pass the tin foil


63 posted on 08/22/2021 3:37:54 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone think the takers of the “vaccine” have doomed themselves to being hit with the Seven Last Plagues?
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When people use the sacrifice of a baby, so they can live for another day, I suspect it may not end well for them


64 posted on 08/22/2021 3:41:56 PM PDT by roving
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To: antidemoncrat

The real mark of the beast will likely be preceded by false marks. This vaccine is not it.


65 posted on 08/22/2021 3:56:26 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Peter ODonnell

No.


66 posted on 08/22/2021 4:06:32 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus ("It's a republic, madam, if you can keep it.")
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To: Peter ODonnell

Looking into this further, I discovered that seven heads and ten horns is not just symbolic. The G7 countries would represent seven heads. ...
No such configuration existed in Jesus' time, so no. And the dragon in this context is the devil; the Beast is certainly not going to receive a seat of power and great authority from Red China, who will never possess such power as would come straight from the prince of this world.
67 posted on 08/22/2021 4:06:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Peter ODonnell

No.

The mark of the beast comes about 3-1/2 years into the seven year rule of the AntiChrist.

When the AntiChrist comes, we’ll know it because it will mark the beginning of The Great Tribulation. And he ain’t here yet.


68 posted on 08/22/2021 4:06:55 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Olog-hai

what about the ‘seven hills’ of Rome? (or later, Constantinople? also built on 7 hills)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome

for the 10 horns, here’s an alternate explanation:

” Josephus listed exactly 10 high priests and religious leaders in Israel who were given authority as generals in December 66 AD or January 67 AD. “

plain text is here:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flavius-josephus/war-of-the-jews/book-2/chapter-20.html

and they’re highlighted here:
https://adammaarschalk.com/2016/07/11/josephus-lists-the-10-horns-who-received-authority-for-one-hour-revelation-1712/#:~:text=1%20Joseph%2C%20the%20son%20of%20Gorion%20%28Governor%20of,Simon%20%28Jericho%29%207%20Manasseh%20%28Perea%29%20More%20items...%20


69 posted on 08/22/2021 4:23:38 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

for the end times ping list


70 posted on 08/22/2021 4:37:26 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: antidemoncrat

When reading about the vaccine pass, substitute ‘mark’ for ‘pass’...makes for an interesting read.


71 posted on 08/22/2021 4:40:45 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: blueplum

Daniel makes it plain that they’re a collection of Gentile kingdoms. The Apostles knew the identity.


72 posted on 08/22/2021 4:48:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Peter ODonnell
I think my decision is to withdraw from the society, which may include by necessity reducing ties with family and associates, and wait it out, until either the Biblical prophecy is fulfilled or at least the mass social delusion aspects fade away and the thing becomes a footnote of history perhaps.

Matthew 5:13
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

73 posted on 08/22/2021 5:11:39 PM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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To: Peter ODonnell
I think my decision is to withdraw from the society, which may include by necessity reducing ties with family and associates, and wait it out, until either the Biblical prophecy is fulfilled or at least the mass social delusion aspects fade away and the thing becomes a footnote of history perhaps.

Matthew 5:13
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

74 posted on 08/22/2021 5:11:39 PM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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To: SkyDancer

Mark of the Beast

Beast in the Biblical sense means a government or system, not a person. Revelation relates that there is more than one Beast at the time the Anti-Christ is revealed.

It is a number of a man, not the man. Again in the Greek the number of a man refers to humanity as a whole, not the man as in the Anti-Christ.

So if one takes the Greek meanings then:

The mark relates to the system/government. Reading the scripture regarding ‘taking’ the mark consider it in the context of a system. And boy...then yes, we are indeed witnessing a system being built.

NiIt more as part of the ‘grooming’ process needed for people to actually willingly, knowingly take the mark of the beast (system).

Surprisingly this monologue explains the ritual we are being put through https://groundzeromedia.org/8-9-21-nu-normul-pharmakeia-666/


75 posted on 08/22/2021 5:15:13 PM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

It certainly is a practice run if nothing else.


76 posted on 08/22/2021 5:17:12 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Lock and Load.)
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To: EBH
Beast in the Biblical sense means a government or system, not a person.

Indeed...a beastly system. We certainly have that.

77 posted on 08/22/2021 5:32:05 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Peter ODonnell
“I wouldn’t go as far as saying any one man in leadership is “the Beast” nor would I look for one.”

I agree. The beast of Revelation is clearly modeled on the beasts of Daniel. The beasts in Daniel represented empires not individuals.

78 posted on 08/22/2021 5:38:04 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: EBH

The Beast government was always controlled by one man.

The term “antichrist” is broader. It even has the simple definition of “he ... who denies the Father and the Son” per 1 John 2:22.


79 posted on 08/22/2021 5:38:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: circlecity

But Daniel (chapter 2) identified Nebuchadnezzar personally as the “head of gold” in the dream with the statue, which corresponds with the visions of the beasts. And quite often, the Bible uses the terms for a kingdom interchangeably with the names of its kings.


80 posted on 08/22/2021 5:43:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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