The logical argument that Fauci, Moderna, Pfizer and others may have fabricated fake Covid-19 vaccine trials and reported falsified data

3/24/2021 | vanity

[Jane Long]

Like we’re to believe CDC China Virus *death* counts.....lol.

(Don’t let anyone pull your leg, with that nonsense.)

[ransomnote]

So the vaccine trials used FAKE test results? So how did they know when to use false positive test results and show 95% difference between the trial participants who RECEIVED THE VACCINE VERSUS THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE PLACEBO?

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I think you are intentionally pretending you don't get it. The results didn't show a 95% difference; that's the 'fake' part. They decided what percentage they needed and back calculated to know how many positives they needed. Supposedly, they did it repeatedly for 28 thousand people using an inaccurate test with results which are almost random - an impossibility unless they faked the data.

[David Chase]

The problem with a “May Have” post is this:

It can be used for anything and everything. For example;

Birdseye’s bag of steam-able Brussel Sprouts MAY HAVE tiny GPS trackers in them.

Your real parents MAY HAVE sold you to the people that raised you and you believe they’re your real parents.

Intergalactic travelers from the Zuhn solar system MAY HAVE voted in the 2020 election for Biden.

You did very good on this morning’s post, I was going to tell you. It was interesting. But a “May Have” post, well...........just more conspiracy.

[ransomnote]

Mine/ prior: I think it’s reasonable to assume that vaccine trial participants were give the PCR ‘test’ repeatedly: at the start of the trial, after Dose 1, after Dose 2, and then routinely through the 4 or so weeks of monitoring following to see at what point they might supposedly contract (e.g., subject’s PCR ‘test’ positive 10 days after vaccine administration – too soon for vaccine to protect participant).

Yours: That's not necessarily a reasonable assumption and from what I know they didn't do routine PCR testing of the two populations at all.

Mine: They state they use PCR or symptoms, including a single symtom.

Even if they just tested before and after, their PCR test cannot render the results they claim because it's almost random. They can use symptom(s) to indicate respiratory illness but they cannot accurately say what caused that illness or combination of illnesses.

Yours: As you posted, Cases of COVID‑19, starting 14 days after Dose 2, were defined as symptomatic COVID‑19 requiring positive RT-PCR result.... The person had to have Covid symptoms and if so the diagnosis was confirmed by the PCR test.

Mine: That's circular logic. They can say they are symptomatic but the PCR test can't confirm the presence of Covid-19. They have no idea how many different respiratory illnesses or combination of illnesses were present among their sick trial participants.

Yours: Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

Mine: That doesn't mean any of them were sick with Covid-19. There are countless respiratory illnesses out there.

Yours: People were only tested if they had symptoms, so it's possible many people who got the vaccine contracted asymptomatic disease, but note the manufacturers don't make any claims about efficacy against that.

Mine: It's just as well since they can't prove whether Covid was present in any symptomatic or asymptomatic trial participants.

Yours: To the overall point about false positives the nearly perfect correlation between positive case counts, hospitalizations and deaths indicates the tests are very often right.

Mine: They created a new term to describe healthy people: aymptomatic.

They made a new rule for this fake pandemic which required all persons dying within 60 days of a (false) postive PCR test must be declared as dying of Covid-19 (including deaths from car accidents, COPD, cancer). They then claimed that information proved the presence of asymptomatic illness.

[ransomnote]

If it is true the more common tests are just looking for a specific genetic sequence

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A link at the top about the PCR explains that it looks for sequences of compounds (not genes) which can be found in fruit, Coca Cola, motor oil etc.

[bagster]

But a “May Have” post, well...........just more conspiracy.

David Chase MAY NOT understand that his strawmen and false metaphors are all lacking evidence, while Ransomnote's MAY has gobs of it, which she included in the body of the post.

On the other hand, David Chase MAY BE purposefully trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the viewing audience and he MAY KNOW completely well that his post is ridiculous on it's face.

[David Chase]

Memes from Facebook or Twitter are only considered “proof” to the conspiracy theorist.

Most people want facts. Studies, papers written, peer reviews, lab results.

Everything is a “May Have” in the beginning of a conspiracy, then it grows into a “Did”............all without real facts but pages of memes and quotes from some dude on Twitter.

[bagster]

But a “May Have” post, well...........just more conspiracy.

(and furthermore):

No, David Chase.

The things (studies, statements, etc) Ransomnote cited in her journalistic piece are either true or not true, and provably so. Just as the evidence of your 'conspiracy theory' is.

There is no 'conspiracy theory' about it.

Now we have to determine who's wrong and/or who's lying.

I got my money on the derp state.

You?

Side bet: I already know.

[semimojo]

Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

That doesn't mean any of them were sick with Covid-19. There are countless respiratory illnesses out there.

Now you're off the rails. Why would the control group have more cases with Covid-like symptoms than the vaccinated group?

Forget the positive PCR tests, we're talking symptoms.

They created a new term to describe healthy people: aymptomatic.

LOL. The correlation is between PCR positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Symptoms don't enter into it.

[ransomnote]

LOL. The correlation is between PCR positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

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You’re going to pretend PCR tests are valid so let’s just move on.

[House Atreides]

“I think you are intentionally pretending you don’t get it. The results didn’t show a 95% difference; that’s the ‘fake’ part. They decided what percentage they needed and back calculated to know how many positives they needed. Supposedly, they did it repeatedly for 28 thousand people using an inaccurate test with results which are almost random - an impossibility unless they faked the data.”
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The meaning of your above words are almost incomprehensible to me.

Do you understand that the LAB virus testing was done when a trial participant reported feeling SYMPTOMATIC? Feeling symptoms did not mean they had COVID-19. They could have had a cold or other infection. The lab testing was to determine whether they had the COVID-19 virus or not.

Do you understand that ALL the trial participants DID NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY HAD RECEIVED A PLACEBO OR AN ACTUAL VACCINE? Neither did ALL the people giving the shots know who got what shot. That’s what “double blind” means.

Do you understand that the clinical trial workers (to whom the trial participants reported that they felt symptoms) DID NOT KNOW WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL TRIAL PARTICIPANT REPORTING SYMPTOMS WAS IN THE PLACEBO GROUP OR IN THE ACTUAL VACCINE GROUP. These workers were also “BLIND”. Every time a trial participant reported symptoms, a nasal swab sample was taken to be sent to the lab.

The LAB processing the nasal swabs DID NOT KNOW WHICH GROUP (PLACEBO OR VACCINE). The LAB and its workers were also “BLIND”.

The whole purpose of this BLINDING was to eliminate the possibility of INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL BIAS OR CHEATING.

[ZinGirl]

Merck is a large, reputable pharmaceutical company, too. https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/merck-manipulated-science-about-drug-vioxx

There is no way anyone knows absolutely what Pfizer (or any company) would or wouldn’t do. I have no knowledge or evidence of any wrongdoing, just pointing out that simply being a large, reputable company doesn’t make it immune to shady doings. The almighty dollar is a scheming temptress. FWIW, I’m not signing up for the shot just yet, but I am also not saying “never”.

[Kudsman]

OK

[bagster]

Memes from Facebook or Twitter are only considered “proof” to the conspiracy theorist.

Okay, I'll play along. I'm bored.

Memes From Facebook or Twitter are often derived from those things you mention. Sometimes they are satire to make an easy to consume point.

You know this, but you seek to tar this discussion with the dirty, dirty 8kun meme boyos. Nobody mentioned memes and you pulled that one out of your nalgitas. Another strawman.

Most people want facts. Studies, papers written, peer reviews, lab results.

Which Ransomnote was happy to provide in her well-researched journalistice piece. I didn't see any memes up there btw, hey?

Everything is a “May Have” in the beginning of a conspiracy, then it grows into a “Did”

Everything is based on something. There is a thing, and then people seek out the 'who, what, where, when, and why' of that thing.

We used to call that 'journalism' back when there was such a thing in this country. Now we have to do it ourselves (we are the news now), while people like you rely on that thing that took the place of journalism to feed you information.

............all without real facts but pages of memes and quotes from some dude on Twitter.

There you go again with the meme slam. See above for rebuttal.

As for twitter, it depends on who the 'dude' is. his record and reputation, and what evidence he provides (documentary, video, statements) to be able to determine its veracity and reliability.

Just like if you had read it in the newspaper of old or watched it on Walter Cronkite.

Because it is a new medium does not make it invalid. But again, you know this. You just attempt to disqualify any form of 'alt media' under the rubric of 'conspiracy theory' and the fact that any source that doesn't comply with your definition of 'media' is invalid.

I like to tell Humblegunner the bumpkin that its not the medium, its the message. Its the INFORMATION that's important, not how it is conveyed.

But. You. Know. This.

Or maybe, just maybe, you don't and you are a lot dumber than I take you for.

You MAY find real facts in the body of Ransomnote's journalistic piece, if you are so inclined to look for them.

Happy self-education.

[ransomnote]

The meaning of your above words are almost incomprehensible to me.
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finally something we can agree on!

[bagster]

finally something we can agree on!

*ZING*

Why do I get the feeling he's not gonna get that?

[House Atreides]

You realize that I meant your words were illogical and lacked objective meaning?

[bagster]

You realize that I meant your words were illogical and lacked objective meaning?

Then why didn't you say that?

I recommend a writing class.

You can squeeze it in right after spelling class and logic class, down at the Adult Learning Center (ALC).

They may also have something on Researching and Etiquette.

Check it out. A man can never know too much.

[House Atreides]

Dude, have you and ransomnote never advanced emotionally beyond junior high? Seriously, folks try to engage you as adults when you post a “baffle them with BS” composition filled with errors and you respond like adolescents. Perhaps that’s the extent of your abilities? Or perhaps you do it or look for typos to avoid facing the SERIOUS deficiencies in your arguments?

[ransomnote]

Do you understand that the LAB virus testing was done when a trial participant reported feeling SYMPTOMATIC? Feeling symptoms did not mean they had COVID-19. They could have had a cold or other infection. The lab testing was to determine whether they had the COVID-19 virus or not.

Do you understand that ALL the trial participants DID NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY HAD RECEIVED A PLACEBO OR AN ACTUAL VACCINE? Neither did ALL the people giving the shots know who got what shot. That’s what “double blind” means.

Do you understand that the clinical trial workers (to whom the trial participants reported that they felt symptoms) DID NOT KNOW WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL TRIAL PARTICIPANT REPORTING SYMPTOMS WAS IN THE PLACEBO GROUP OR IN THE ACTUAL VACCINE GROUP. These workers were also “BLIND”. Every time a trial participant reported symptoms, a nasal swab sample was taken to be sent to the lab.

The LAB processing the nasal swabs DID NOT KNOW WHICH GROUP (PLACEBO OR VACCINE). The LAB and its workers were also “BLIND”.

The whole purpose of this BLINDING was to eliminate the possibility of INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL BIAS OR CHEATING.
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I think you don’t quite grasp what is meant by the word, “cheating”.

I know what “double-blind” means.

I know that the vaccine contains a spike protein unrelated to the Covid-19 virus, but specified for other (common) Corona Virus. There is zero scientific proof that the vaccine protected a single participant from contracting Covid-19.

The adverse reactions to the vaccine indicate runaway auto-immune response (triggered an uncontrolled immune response) and there is fear on the part of industry experts and physicians that the Covid-19 ‘vaccine’ can cause both long-term auto-immunity and immune deficiency.

So there isn’t a question of whether the vaccine can raise immunity to some diseases, but there is zero scientific proof that the vaccine worked against Covid-19. This is by design; thee CDC, NIH and vaccine developers purposefully selected and continue to use the PCR.

I can’t post everything I know about the subject every time I respond - this takes time. The vaccine companies are lying about there products elsewhere and have been complicit in the planned-demic and in the case of Pfizer, are working hand-in-glove with the disreputable Fauci.

I demonstrated at the end of the thread post that we have no reason to assume that after killing as many people as possible (withholding safe, effective treatments) and destroying the economy every step of the way, and choosing failed technology long known to pose risks of ADE, they would then produce a vaccine to help us.

So much of the lies and deception regarding the Covid-19 planned-demic and the ‘vaccine’ are publicly in our faces every day that I no longer see the need to point out that all the vaccine companies, along with CDC and NIH etc. KNOWINGLY selected the PCR test given it’s obvious lack of validity and over the objections of the inventor of the PCR.

So I moved ahead of you in my reasoning to discard the ridiculous idea that the trials were the result of their conscientious good will toward us, and instead believe they pocketed most or all of the billions and faked a double-blind trial that ensure them of billions more to come, and the strategic success of their population reduction goals.

They are knowingly lying when they claim no isolated sample of the Covid-19 virus exist, concealing the manufactured nature of the virus (biowarfare) and thwarted the capacity of white hats outside their Deep State network to use such a sample to develop treatments/vaccines that work, let alone understand the virus at all. How much does it take to impact your thinking?

All these are crimes against humanity and treason. Filtering this information into my understanding along with the rest of the world, I do not feel they would hesitate to violate double-blind protocols (they peeked) or fabricate the trial from the ground up.

I don’t know if you’ll understand this because as far as I can tell, you require capital letters to communicate. No, I’m not going to waste my time editing this post - deal with it.