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To: semimojo
Mine/ prior: I think it’s reasonable to assume that vaccine trial participants were give the PCR ‘test’ repeatedly: at the start of the trial, after Dose 1, after Dose 2, and then routinely through the 4 or so weeks of monitoring following to see at what point they might supposedly contract (e.g., subject’s PCR ‘test’ positive 10 days after vaccine administration – too soon for vaccine to protect participant).

Yours: That's not necessarily a reasonable assumption and from what I know they didn't do routine PCR testing of the two populations at all.

Mine: They state they use PCR or symptoms, including a single symtom.

Even if they just tested before and after, their PCR test cannot render the results they claim because it's almost random. They can use symptom(s) to indicate respiratory illness but they cannot accurately say what caused that illness or combination of illnesses.

Yours: As you posted, Cases of COVID‑19, starting 14 days after Dose 2, were defined as symptomatic COVID‑19 requiring positive RT-PCR result.... The person had to have Covid symptoms and if so the diagnosis was confirmed by the PCR test.

Mine: That's circular logic. They can say they are symptomatic but the PCR test can't confirm the presence of Covid-19. They have no idea how many different respiratory illnesses or combination of illnesses were present among their sick trial participants.

Yours: Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

Mine: That doesn't mean any of them were sick with Covid-19. There are countless respiratory illnesses out there.

Yours: People were only tested if they had symptoms, so it's possible many people who got the vaccine contracted asymptomatic disease, but note the manufacturers don't make any claims about efficacy against that.

Mine: It's just as well since they can't prove whether Covid was present in any symptomatic or asymptomatic trial participants.

Yours: To the overall point about false positives the nearly perfect correlation between positive case counts, hospitalizations and deaths indicates the tests are very often right.

Mine: They created a new term to describe healthy people: aymptomatic.

They made a new rule for this fake pandemic which required all persons dying within 60 days of a (false) postive PCR test must be declared as dying of Covid-19 (including deaths from car accidents, COPD, cancer). They then claimed that information proved the presence of asymptomatic illness.

104 posted on 03/24/2021 5:38:38 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

That doesn't mean any of them were sick with Covid-19. There are countless respiratory illnesses out there.

Now you're off the rails. Why would the control group have more cases with Covid-like symptoms than the vaccinated group?

Forget the positive PCR tests, we're talking symptoms.

They created a new term to describe healthy people: aymptomatic.

LOL. The correlation is between PCR positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Symptoms don't enter into it.

109 posted on 03/24/2021 6:10:13 PM PDT by semimojo
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