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1 posted on 02/26/2021 9:21:03 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

86? Try 52.

“Do over” was so often written on my papers I thought it was my name.


2 posted on 02/26/2021 9:23:21 AM PST by Beowulf9
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Absolutely. I taught my granddaughter her times tables. The school wasn't teaching it anymore.

I also corrected her spelling and showed her something pretty simple that corrected her problem....words need vowels.

They had their papers posted outside of their class....poor kids....being taught that wrong spelling is okay...cuz we don't want to hurt your feelings.

3 posted on 02/26/2021 9:25:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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As a guy who barely touched trig in highschool. The navy got me thru calc , thermodynamics, newtonian and einstienian physics, reactor fundimentals, reactor core construction, motor and generator theory and metallurgy and a few courses I havent mentioned such as basic electricity and electronics and the steam cycle. And boiler water chemistry... all by rote memorizations.


4 posted on 02/26/2021 9:27:44 AM PST by Ikeon (I beleive in paying a living wage, I'll pay you $1000 / bale of my cotton you picked)
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College 1985. Math teacher said no calculators...slide rule only and told us to think in our head what the result should be...plus or minus...that turned out to be good advice.


5 posted on 02/26/2021 9:28:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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For those who don’t know, besides not requiring memorization of things like the times tables, another major fault of common core is exposing kids to math concepts before they are ready to understand them. I’ve subbed in 2nd grade classes where the kids are given fractions to play with—before they’ve even mastered basic addition.

They are exposed to concepts for a couple or three weeks before moving on to the next. There is no mastery of anything. You end up with 8th graders most of whom have to rely on calculators to do two and three digit addition. Whatever appears on the calculator’s screen, they will put down as the answer, no matter how absurd it is.


8 posted on 02/26/2021 9:42:20 AM PST by hanamizu
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Kids learn more from drills? You betcha!

An old chemistry professor of mine once said, “From memorization comes knowledge.”

He was 100% correct. But of course that kind of thinking is not “progressive” enough. So goodbye to another proven learning method.


9 posted on 02/26/2021 9:42:23 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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A younger friend’s wife completed her (non-technical) BS degree a few years ago. I looked at the math book, there was no math in it. Just pictures and words.


10 posted on 02/26/2021 9:44:23 AM PST by sonova (That's what I always say sometimes.)
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You last sentence is it.

Not everyone is good at math. I won’t say that cannot be helped. Some grasp it innately, some with a little drill, some with a lot of drill, some never. Sigh. But the answer is not to concoct a convoluted alternative scheme like Common Core. I for one do not think it is a useful means of teaching slower kids, but it murders the cognitive ability of the sharper kids. For those kids who are good, being able to solve math problems yields a feeling of triumph, confidence, and with practice the feeling that you can CRUSH math problems. That of course is a microaggression and is to be discouraged. When I was young, I killed it at math; and there were few things I was good at and could CRUSH. I just think that feeling is something every kid needs to have, find, and discover within themselves, somewhere. Of course, that feeling is in itself to be crushed within the individual today.

For slower kids, yeah, you know, sometimes horrible rotten repetition and drill WILL WORK. Com Core says repetition will NEVER work. My nephew could not grasp math at all when he was a kid. Most of it was attention span. But his Dad drilled and drilled him, and today he is making astronomical jaw-dropping money working at a hedge fund.

CC is just a goofy piece of twisted, unproven gobbledygook to scramble young brains while textbook publishers can make BILLIONS. (Yes, with a “B”)


12 posted on 02/26/2021 10:00:16 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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CommonCoreMath
18 posted on 02/26/2021 10:27:32 AM PST by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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Many decades ago my husbands Algebra teacher told the class bluntly, I am only going to be able to teach about ten percent of you to do anything so the rest of you just shut up. Don't bother me with questions. If you don't understand it is because you are stupid.

Happily his dad was a teacher in another school in the same district and when he found out about it got him transferred to another class where the teacher was actually competent.

The second teacher used drills rather then abstract explanations and lectures about the Beauty of Numbers.

Most people are not math nerds. They can do math the same way they can drive a car without knowing how to rebuild the engine.

Or read a book without knowing how to write a world class play.

Most of us hit in the middle. We can handle higher maths if it is taught to us correctly. The current curriculum does not want to do it that way. It designed to get us accustomed to having elites who can do things and the rest of us are dumb and should get used to being at the bottom.

31 posted on 02/26/2021 12:27:20 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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Perhaps memorization has something to do with expanding, developing and exercising the brain so that problem solving skills follow. We also use to read voraciously, learn a second language and play musical instruments.


34 posted on 02/26/2021 6:22:10 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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I spent part of a summer moonlighting coaching kids on the ACT for one of the big name tutoring companies. Found out they were essentially a fraud and never went back. But in the meantime the kids I worked with were mostly hopeless at math - couldn’t add 2 + 2 without a calculator.

If you don’t have your basic arithmetic facts embedded in your brain you cannot be good at math.


35 posted on 02/26/2021 10:42:56 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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