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BREAKING: MATT GAETZ SAYS HE WILL RESIGN FROM CONGRESS TO DEFEND TRUMP IN SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL
Bannon War Room Pandemic ^ | February 3, 2021 | Matt Gaetz

Posted on 02/03/2021 7:35:17 AM PST by Travis McGee

Matt Gaetz was on with Bannon for the past half hour. The gist is they both think that "the best defense is a good offense" and that the centerpiece must be exposing the truth about the stolen election.

The GOPe Senate HATES this idea, and says Gaetz cannot do it while he is a sitting Congressman.

Matt Gaetz says that he will resign from Congress immediately in order to defend Trump in the Senate.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: braking; gaetz; impeachtrumptrial; trumpdefense
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To: Travis McGee

if he does this who will be doing the apointing of a replacement. if it is a trump suportring govenor go for it if not then it is a stupid move.


181 posted on 02/03/2021 10:22:06 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: Jim Noble
Why don't you believe conviction is CERTAIN if Trump uses an election fraud defense?

What's interesting about this line of argument is that the issue of election fraud is in the article of impeachment. A first response would be to say that it is improper to include a charge in the article of impeachment and then deny the President the right to put up a defense against the charge.

From the article of impeachment:

2 ...In the months preceding the Joint Ses
3 sion, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements
4 asserting that the Presidential election results were the
5 product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted
6 by the American people or certified by State or Federal
7 officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced,
8 President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in
9 Washington, DC. There, he reiterated false claims that
10 ‘‘we won this election, and we won it by a landslide’’.

The predicate for Trump's alleged crime is that he repeatedly made "false statements" that said that the election was fraudulently won and that's how he "incited" the crowd at the rally.

A natural defense would be that the crowd didn't need "incitement" on this issue because there was plenty of public information already out there that the people were well aware of. He could then submit as evidence the information that the people had access to.

I would say that he doesn't necessarily want to spend the time trying to prove that the election was fraudulently won, but only that reporting of the evidence of election fraud presented at hearings held by several state legislatures was widely available to people who attended the rally, and therefore the President did not incite the crowd "with false statements."

These were statements made under oath at several state legislature hearings, the President should argue.

-PJ

182 posted on 02/03/2021 10:28:28 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: TonyChris

Texas is also.

No question about it.


183 posted on 02/03/2021 10:30:47 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: bgill
There never is. It is a risk.

It comes down to how red his district is, what the competition looks like, and how liked he is.

That said, he won his district 64.6 to 34.0, so he's not likely to lose that support in a rerun.

-PJ

184 posted on 02/03/2021 10:31:19 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: everyone

I’ve been looking for confirmation of this happening and so far, silence. Seem like it would be big news.


185 posted on 02/03/2021 10:38:56 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; fieldmarshaldj

Better dead than red


186 posted on 02/03/2021 10:48:47 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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To: central_va

He’s one of the few actual conservatives in the House. Call me selfish.


187 posted on 02/03/2021 10:51:48 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: rollo tomasi
"SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over how Leahy operates or what he allows or disallows."

You could not be more wrong.

There were interlocutory cases during the 1st Impeachment and the 1st Impeachment Trial that simply did not reach SCOTUS because the Democrats feared that very thing -- trying interlocutory cases or In Re: Impeachment in SCOTUS -- and after their attempts to depose Trump admin officials beforehand, simply mooted the same Trump admin officials subpoenas to appear at Impeachment to prevent any appeals.

This nearly got away from Nancy when Charles Kupperman refused to stop fighting his Federal case despite her mooting his subpoena! Then Mulvaney tried to plead into Kupperman's case precisely to send it to SCOTUS! United States District Court Leon (Shrub appointee, of course) rejected Mick's suit but had to grovel to Kupperman's lawyer and basically commit fraud upon the Court and assure Kupperman the case would eventually be dismissed.

Then in the 1st Impeachment Trial, the Senate barely voted against witnesses for the exact. same. reason. That is why only a couple of RINOs were allowed to vote for witnesses. You could not have had witnesses because they would have immediately hit SCOTUS.

Why do you think Rand -- who consistently communicates with the Majority Leader -- was even allowed to present his procedural vote! Schumer could have prevented that with simple Senate parliamentary out-of-order.

This trial, I state again, the first defense order-of-business should be to ticklist every Constitutional question and tell Leahy the Complaints are being filed as. we. speak.

Pull Queeg directly into this Constitutional crisis which he cannot and must not avoid.

188 posted on 02/03/2021 10:58:29 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: Travis McGee

That is the SHOT OVER The BOW! Yes, he can have evidence from here to ETERNITY on the Fraud of Voting.


189 posted on 02/03/2021 11:04:22 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Trump!)
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To: frog in a pot

And they are impeaching him again to try and prohibit him from ever running for office again

Yet one of the Democrats who votes to impeach was himself impeached as a judge.

It’s just stupifying


190 posted on 02/03/2021 11:07:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: PCPOET7
if he does this who will be doing the apointing of a replacement

No one can be appointed to the House of Representatives.

You cannot enter the House as a Member unless you are elected. Vacancies are sometimes filled by special election, and sometimes they are left open until the next biennial election.

191 posted on 02/03/2021 11:09:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (He who saves his nation violates no law)
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To: rollo tomasi

I appreciate the point, but when the bias of the “arbiter” is so blatant, it goes against every concept of fairness in any adjudication. I’d like to know if the past cases of the President Pro Tempore was of the opposing party or had a long history of hatred toward the impeachee (made that word up).


192 posted on 02/03/2021 11:10:31 AM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Magnum44

And a sitting senator gets to be the “judge”?


193 posted on 02/03/2021 11:26:55 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: amnestynone
He can act as lawyer and then hopefully run in the special election to reclaim his seat.

Resigning your seat and running in the special election to fill the vacancy used to be a thing done when House members changed parties. I do not recall anyone doing since Phil Gramm in the early 80s.

194 posted on 02/03/2021 11:34:22 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: rollo tomasi

It is divided & this is a farce.


195 posted on 02/03/2021 11:37:28 AM PST by Reily
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To: rollo tomasi
Leahy is president pro tempore of the Senate which is why he is presiding as the judge. Pro tempore have served as judges in the past during impeachment trials.

Just a minor quibble. Leahy will serve as the Presiding Officer of the Senate. When the Chief Justice crosses over to the legislature, he assumes the role of Presiding Officer of the Senate, not judge.

196 posted on 02/03/2021 12:04:39 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: Pilsner

there is always a first time!


197 posted on 02/03/2021 12:16:17 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Travis McGee
He says he’s never lost a trial case, and he won’t start in the Senate.

Well, what cases has he tried? I've searched, and I can't find much of anything about his career as a lawyer other than he was an associate at a now-defunct firm in Fort Walton, FL. No high-profile verdicts or appellate cases that I can find. He had only been out of law school for 3 years when he joined the Florida House, and less than 10 before joining Congress.

Trump already has real lawyers defending him. He has no need of Gaetz. Of course, if Gaetz is silly enough to resign his seat for no reason, maybe his safe Republican district could use a representative with better judgment.

198 posted on 02/03/2021 12:33:46 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: StAnDeliver
I am sorry but could you read Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5, and Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7.

Judicial interpretation of the impeachment trail is verboten, Constitutionally and historically (Look at the Johnson trial and how the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS was told to piss off with his opinions).

Also



Are you one of those Q "The 4chan tripfag" schizoids? Stay off the tripcodes as well.
199 posted on 02/03/2021 1:04:38 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

BTTT


200 posted on 02/03/2021 1:29:49 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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